Sam-AVFC Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, tomsky_11 said: Be interesting to see if this is acutally the case, especially under Gerrard. In possession him and Mings tend to be quite far apart. A lot of Konsa's passes go into Luiz or McGinn dropping deep or to Cash. Trying to find some passing network charts on this, only ones I could find quickly were the Palace and Norwich games, which appear to show no passes at all from Konsa to Mings. Maybe I misremember it as being more frequent than it actually is because it's a gripe that imo, despite having the ability to, he rarely makes a brave pass. I'd suggest a pass map that shows 0 passes between our CBs in 2 separate games is a little suspect! Edit: found the pass maps you were talking about and both imply Ezri Konsa didn't receive or make a single pass in either game, which seems unusual to me. Even if correct he wont be passing to Mings if he's not passing to anyone. What I did find interesting is the blog that had the Palace pass map in also had the below from West Ham, when Mings didn't play. You'll note Konsa playing the ball to Hause more often than in the return direction, with Hause making far more forward passes and (before this weekend) I think you'd do well to find anyone claiming Hause was the better, more progressive passer. Edited January 18, 2022 by Sam-AVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobsons Choice Posted January 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, Keyblade said: You'll have to use a VPN because only in Canada does it show all PL games. Ah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted January 21, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2022 Pictured in the background of the training photos today hopefully for enough to play then got 2 weeks before Leeds to get 100% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) On 18/01/2022 at 18:43, Keyblade said: I'm not sure where this idea that he's this ball playing progressive CB has come from, but he's far from it. I mean, he's not a clogger by any means, but of the 2 CBs, it's definitely Mings who shoulders most of the offensive responsibility. Came from his Brentford days. Some of his passing can be good but I don't know if he afraid to try or its team instructions It has probably cost him international caps and also later on a big money move Edited January 22, 2022 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The_Steve Posted January 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2022 Aahaha, this is King s*** from Ezri - he opened the lucozade thrown at Digne and drank some 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted January 22, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, The_Steve said: Aahaha, this is King s*** from Ezri - he opened the lucozade thrown at Digne and drank some Brave man doing that with a bottle from a Scouser. 50/50 chance it's full of piss. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, villarule123 said: Brave man doing that with a bottle from a Scouser. 50/50 chance it's full of piss. Isnt that just regular Lucozade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moustache of Teale Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 hours ago, villarule123 said: Brave man doing that with a bottle from a Scouser. 50/50 chance it's full of piss. 90% chance he’ll catch some horrific disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 We must be making progress if we have players of this calibre on page 3. Hope he's fully fit when get back at it. Good to know we have good cover for him now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Just bumping this so everyone doesn't lose this thread on page 10 as they seem to most weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 **** stupid getting that second yellow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 9, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 9, 2022 Embarrassing performance But he isn't Tyrone Mings so it's ok 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Truly dreadful. We are going nowhere with Konsa and Mings at the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Just now, StefanAVFC said: Embarrassing performance But he isn't Tyrone Mings so it's ok He isn’t consistently shit and gifting goals like Mings, that’s the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Spoony said: He isn’t consistently shit and gifting goals like Mings, that’s the difference Mings isn't consistently shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 We've let in plenty of goals due to his ball watching and suspect positioning from crosses. It just doesn't get analysed to the 10th degree like with Mings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Spoony said: He isn’t consistently shit and gifting goals like Mings, that’s the difference Well, he has been recently, yet it's been ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Tbf Mings is also the captain, is older and has been an issue a lot longer than Konsa has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Him and mings today both been shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Suspended for 2 games now. Lack experience in our squad, not street smart these lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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