Tomaszk Posted July 2, 2022 Author Share Posted July 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, pete101 said: Balaban was worse, at least Wesley scored a couple of goals but for me was still useless before injury, it's not a luc nilis situation where the guy looked a world beater before the injury I don't think he was. Plus we bought him for £6m and sold for £1.5m. Bought Wes for £20m and will be releasing him for nothing having paid him over £10m. It's a truly incredible transfer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 I doubt his career is over at any level. Surely he could still potentially play at lower levels in the league? League 1 maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 2, 2022 Author Share Posted July 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I doubt his career is over at any level. Surely he could still potentially play at lower levels in the league? League 1 maybe? The top of League 1 is incredibly competitive. He's not good enough for that level. I think he'd be getting a lot of reds as well as players realise how easily he can be wound up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 4 hours ago, The_Steve said: I'd add Okore to that second tier. Heck, we somehow paid £5m for Tshibola. Okore was top flight though and his injury ruined him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 4 hours ago, duke313 said: Is Wesley the biggest flop we’ve ever had, given how much we paid for him? Obviously his decline is somewhat beyond his control given the injury he sustained. Think we overpaid by about 5m just to make work permit application easier. If he'd been in 15m range then you wouldn't say he was worse than McCormack or even Hogan as he at least did score some goals that won us points and could well have hit double figures in prem if he'd played the full season. No one can ever foresee injury that actually ends a players top level career and it so rarely happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I doubt his career is over at any level. Surely he could still potentially play at lower levels in the league? League 1 maybe? Would he want to stay in England just playing at low levels? Think we got him the club back in Brazil just to get him back home but obviously top level is just too much for him post injury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 I would say Ross McCormack was our worst ever signing. We played it safe by signing a proven Championship goal scorer or so we thought. Not a gamble, just guaranteed goals so paid the premium for it. Unfortunately as has often been the case with Villa, proven goalscorers seem to forget how to score when they sign for us. Instead we signed a fat, useless waste of space with an attitude even worse than his performances. Then top it off we had to pay him a promotion bonus despite not playing for us for two years. Wesley was rubbish but he was a gamble, tried his best and suffered that awful injury. McCormack was just a disaster from start to finish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted July 2, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 2, 2022 5 hours ago, YLN said: Well if he's on £35-50k a week, that is probably some comfort. I would imagine few of his classmates in Brazil will earn 1 year of his wages in their whole life. It's sad that his career has not worked out, but he is a young extremely rich man who will get support from the club when his contract is up. I imagine the same support someone who ages out of the academy gets when they are being released. They won't have ten million in their back pocket though. I remember reading though that there is someone in the club who looks after the young footballers who havent made it and gets them reintegrated into life not around millionaires Really appreciate those perspectives and all that information. All makes perfect sense. Hopefully, he will manage his money well and find his way … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 9 hours ago, pete101 said: Balaban was worse, at least Wesley scored a couple of goals but for me was still useless before injury, it's not a luc nilis situation where the guy looked a world beater before the injury Balaban had a very good career, outside of us. Was a strange signing. Well, perhaps not so strange if you believe the rumours about fraud and backhanders. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bannedfromHandV Posted July 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2022 I don’t know how someone who had his career ruined by an injury can be deemed a flop. He was improving, ironically the game in which he got injured was one of his best in a Villa shirt. He was an unconventional player with an unconventional route into football, he had scope for development but the injury means we’ll never know how good he may have become. Did we get value for money on the transfer? No. Is he our ‘biggest flop’? Harsh in my opinion. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: I don’t know how someone who had his career ruined by an injury can be deemed a flop. He was improving, ironically the game in which he got injured was one of his best in a Villa shirt. He was an unconventional player with an unconventional route into football, he had scope for development but the injury means we’ll never know how good he may have become. Did we get value for money on the transfer? No. Is he our ‘biggest flop’? Harsh in my opinion. I agree… He scored more goals and played more games for us than Balaban… At least we got SOME form of joy out of him signing for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: I don’t know how someone who had his career ruined by an injury can be deemed a flop. He was improving, ironically the game in which he got injured was one of his best in a Villa shirt. He was an unconventional player with an unconventional route into football, he had scope for development but the injury means we’ll never know how good he may have become. Did we get value for money on the transfer? No. Is he our ‘biggest flop’? Harsh in my opinion. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Started for Internacional but was subbed after 59 mins against Ceara. First time in 6 games he's gotten minutes so that's something at least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Our biggest flop has to be Bosko Balaban surely… for like… ever?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 3, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 3, 2022 Sasa Curcic? Neale Cooper. Both similar to Wes. Came here with high hopes but hardly played due to injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 3, 2022 Author Share Posted July 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, sidcow said: Sasa Curcic? Neale Cooper. Both similar to Wes. Came here with high hopes but hardly played due to injuries. Didn't cost £20m and get paid £10m though. Sasa Curcic has a great wiki page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 4 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: I don’t know how someone who had his career ruined by an injury can be deemed a flop. He was improving, ironically the game in which he got injured was one of his best in a Villa shirt. He was an unconventional player with an unconventional route into football, he had scope for development but the injury means we’ll never know how good he may have become. Did we get value for money on the transfer? No. Is he our ‘biggest flop’? Harsh in my opinion. Exactly this. People saying Wesley and Okore were flops. No, having their knees explode didn't make them flops . Players like McCormack were. We wasted a large amount of money on a rocket polisher. Now that is a flop. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) On 02/07/2022 at 14:47, Tomaszk said: The top of League 1 is incredibly competitive. He's not good enough for that level. I think he'd be getting a lot of reds as well as players realise how easily he can be wound up. Mate. He actually scored goals in the Premier League, you genuinely don't think he is even good enough for League One level anymore? He alsoobed to us with Champions League experience. Obviously haven't seen him play since leaving here, ( And the reports aren't good ) so can't judge, but I find it hard to believe that he's not even good enough for League One. Edited July 3, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tomaszk said: Didn't cost £20m and get paid £10m though. £6m in 2001 is “more” than £20m in 2019. Balaban signed a £20k/wk contract back then as well. All for literally zero product. Edited July 3, 2022 by bobzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Tomaszk said: Didn't cost £20m and get paid £10m though. Sasa Curcic has a great wiki page. What's the equivalent of £20m in the 90s / early 2000s though? Probably £5m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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