7392craig Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 With a lot of mentions of playing 4-2-3-1, what would people say to Wesley playing as the CAM behind the striker and the wingers either side? It’d put him behind the striker where he played before joining us and he does have a tendency to come a little deeper for the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Pulisic. That’s the spirit. I’d take Greenwood from United and Trent Alexander-Arnold from Liverpool as well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 36 minutes ago, 7392craig said: With a lot of mentions of playing 4-2-3-1, what would people say to Wesley playing as the CAM behind the striker and the wingers either side? It’d put him behind the striker where he played before joining us and he does have a tendency to come a little deeper for the ball. Depends on the game, I think even Grealish would be a risk to play there against top teams. We might do when we’re planning to attack and press. Or if we’re playing 532. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7392craig Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 I prefer Grealish where he is myself. I’d be tempted to try Wesley there, with a more traditional (and more mobile) striker in front of him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khizzy Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Definitely think Wes will be a Villa legend - Edens, that is! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 8, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2020 6 hours ago, Sulberto21 said: Becoming a Villa legend doesn't mean one has to be one of the best players in Europe. JPA is considered a legend by some but he was hardly one of the best in Europe. I agree. Like Tonev is somewhat of a Villa legend too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 minute ago, AVTuco said: I agree. Like Tonev is somewhat of a Villa legend too. And Balaban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, AVTuco said: I agree. Like Tonev is somewhat of a Villa legend too. ... and Salifou! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 3 hours ago, 7392craig said: I prefer Grealish where he is myself. I’d be tempted to try Wesley there, with a more traditional (and more mobile) striker in front of him though. Lol. No chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted August 8, 2020 Author Share Posted August 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Zatman said: I think some people need to realise that is a lot more footballers in the world than at Brentford Not ruling signing from them but we shouldnt be giving them 50/60 million ever for a couple of players I know what you mean but this is the sort of attitude Utd fans have in thinking they should get Grealish for £40m. There's a premium on their players because they're good You pay what the market dictates. And the market is ****. Are there better players out there than Watkins for £25m? God, yes. But there's risk taken out of that particular deal with him being English, knowing the manager and knowing the system already. He can also play the two positions we currently have absolutely no one good enough for Premier League football. Brentford being the smart alecs they are, I expect they know this and are asking for even more as such. I'm much more up for Watkins than Benrahma in our current situation. Wouldn't grumble at £25/30m, not my money. The Wes thread has taught me £20m isn't much for a PL player anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Lol. No chance. Anything to avoid that acknowledgement he's absolute shite Next up is to have him as a DM due to his size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Wesley is definitely not an attacking midfielder, certainly not in the Premier League anyway. He could play as a support striker in a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2, but that would be the traditional kind of support striker who is still pushing on the centre backs and playing his partner through with flick ons. I think he has potential and the right mentality. His athleticism is a natural gift that will continue to improve, and he will be a nightmare for defenders when he learns how to manage referees better. There is something there, it will just take time to develop, and will develop better without everyone depending on him for 15-20 goals in a season. Stick a quicker, more agile striker in that squad, and suddenly having the Wesley option looks quite useful - a battering ram who can change things up against certain teams. The thing that makes me think he will succeed is he has that calmness in front of goal. It's a rare quality, and some very technically and physically limited players have built careers around it. He backs himself to tuck the ball away. Do we need to sign more quality up front? 100%. But I firmly believe Wesley can still be a useful part of the setup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 24 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Anything to avoid that acknowledgement he's absolute shite Next up is to have him as a DM due to his size. Give it a f**king rest! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keyblade Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 I can see him eventually replicating his form from Belgium if the stars align post-injury, but I don't think a Benteke style explosion is on the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted August 8, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2020 52 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Lol. No chance. I can’t help it, every time I read your posts I hear Dave Angel speaking the words in my head 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted August 8, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Keyblade said: I can see him eventually replicating his form from Belgium if the stars align post-injury, but I don't think a Benteke style explosion is on the cards. If we could get 10 to 12 goals out of him a season I would be over the moon Edited August 8, 2020 by Follyfoot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 8 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Guys I'm a huge advocate and defender of Wesleys. However, the folks predicting he is going to be a "legend" or "the best striker in Europe" etc make us all look a bit stupid . Keep it logical and tempered ffs lol So are you saying there’s no chance he can ever become prime minister? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post M_Afro Posted August 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2020 Give the kid a chance ffs. I hope he never reads this thread because it is embarrassing. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 45 minutes ago, KentVillan said: Wesley is definitely not an attacking midfielder, certainly not in the Premier League anyway. He could play as a support striker in a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2, but that would be the traditional kind of support striker who is still pushing on the centre backs and playing his partner through with flick ons. I think he has potential and the right mentality. His athleticism is a natural gift that will continue to improve, and he will be a nightmare for defenders when he learns how to manage referees better. There is something there, it will just take time to develop, and will develop better without everyone depending on him for 15-20 goals in a season. Stick a quicker, more agile striker in that squad, and suddenly having the Wesley option looks quite useful - a battering ram who can change things up against certain teams. The thing that makes me think he will succeed is he has that calmness in front of goal. It's a rare quality, and some very technically and physically limited players have built careers around it. He backs himself to tuck the ball away. Do we need to sign more quality up front? 100%. But I firmly believe Wesley can still be a useful part of the setup. I completely disagree with this, in fact I'd say a CAM is exactly what he is. Just on a very low level. He's fairly capable of attributes like passing, vision, off ball. But he completely lacks fundamental striker qualities like directness, pace, acceleration, urgency, heading, shooting. He looks far more comfortable orchestrating a goal than scoring it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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