Popular Post Keyblade Posted January 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2020 9 hours ago, DCJonah said: This isn't true. He's had lots of support from the very start. A bit of justified criticism on a fans forum doesn't change all that I was referring more to social media which he's most likely to see. It's been nothing but abuse on there. Even on VT, he barely got 10 games before the "I despise him", "worst player I've seen for Villa", "he's a donkey" etc started coming out. It really sucks that a 22 year old, coming to a new league and country can't even get a few months grace period. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, Keyblade said: I was referring more to social media which he's most likely to see. It's been nothing but abuse on there. Even on VT, he barely got 10 games before the "I despise him", "worst player I've seen for Villa", "he's a donkey" etc started coming out. It really sucks that a 22 year old, coming to a new league and country can't even get a few months grace period. Well said, not often we agree but on this we do!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 10 hours ago, DCJonah said: Not sure what the point is Maybe sympathetic magic or a cargo cult type thing. If we recite Benteke’s stats loud and long enough, they will transfer to Wesley? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 15 hours ago, Wezbid said: I think people forget he's 22 at times and just where his career started. He's not where we want him to be but there is absolutely potential to develop there. I don’t think anyone forgets these things tbf. Some however wonder why our sole striker is a 23 year old (NB correct age) who needs lots of development support. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted January 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, briny_ear said: I don’t think anyone forgets these things tbf. Some however wonder why our sole striker is a 23 year old (NB correct age) who needs lots of development support. That's all. That's the club's fault not Wesley's. No excuse for the abuse for the young lad. Edited January 15, 2020 by Villan_of_oz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 56 minutes ago, Keyblade said: I was referring more to social media which he's most likely to see. It's been nothing but abuse on there. Even on VT, he barely got 10 games before the "I despise him", "worst player I've seen for Villa", "he's a donkey" etc started coming out. It really sucks that a 22 year old, coming to a new league and country can't even get a few months grace period. I agree. But then that's social media and the world we live in, which is a completely different discussion. As a new player, he has had lots of support from fans at the ground and many more. You're talking about a handful of people going extreme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) I hate personal abuse on social media towards footballers just because they are crap or playing poorly. I bet it doesn’t happen in any other sport. Edited January 15, 2020 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted January 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I agree. But then that's social media and the world we live in, which is a completely different discussion. As a new player, he has had lots of support from fans at the ground and many more. You're talking about a handful of people going extreme. It must be a very large Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I hate personal abuse on social media towards footballers just before they are crap or playing poorly. I bet it doesn’t happen in any other sport. I think a lot of it is due to the obscene wages footballers earn. Tbh I doubt any of them give social media comments a second thought. I imagine they just look at their bank balance and chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I hate personal abuse on social media towards footballers just because they are crap or playing poorly. I bet it doesn’t happen in any other sport. It happens with everyone on there, famous or not, a sportsman or now. If you've got a big following, or even if you've just said something that's disagreed with you'll get undeserved abuse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Hmmm maybe I’m just getting old and not with the times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I follow some NHL and Cricket pages online and while players do get abuse the odd time you never hear some of the horrible things footballers get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Just now, Zatman said: I follow some NHL and Cricket pages online and while players do get abuse the odd time you never hear some of the horrible things footballers get. Cricket gets very nasty, especially in countries where cricket is more of a mainstream sport. But tends to be targeted at opposition players. Think the issue with football is that there are only two stats everyone appreciates: goals and assists. Maybe goals conceded / clean sheets as well. Everything else is very poorly understood by your average fan, so it’s easy to just turn on a player. In cricket it’s much easier to measure the difference between different players’ contributions. So the debate is more about fine margins. No cricket fan seriously thinks a batsman with a 40+ average is crap, but they might think he’s overrated or too loose or whatever. But the equivalent level of player in football can easily be regarded as a completely useless waste of space by lots of fans, because he plays in a position where he doesn’t stack up goals and assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) If you are looking at perspective on expectation, and why fans ire is unfair and misdirected, imagine a big name premier league club with the very very wealthy and ambitious owners solely pinning the hopes of their season and premier league survival on a single 22 year old player from another league and country, who wasn’t known for his prolific goal record. Oh, and backed up by another 22 y.o. not deemed good enough for the championship and an over the hill has been who wants out of the club. Smacks of poor management and strategy doesn’t it, and what pressure it’s subsequently put on him and the team generally. Wesley’s played because he’s had to. I also don’t think that he would be playing if he couldn’t follow instruction or persisted in ignoring instruction i.e. he is doing what the management want. From what I’ve seen, the team are not playing to him not him failing to play to the,. He is actually pretty sharp on the turn and has put away some clinical finishes, the problem seems to be supply. With Benteke, the whole philosophy was to get the ball to him and we successfully exploited that, this isn’t happening with Wesley. Edited January 15, 2020 by thunderball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 He looked so much better at Burnley when we went to 3 at the back, there is never a good time to pick up an injury but bloody hell the timing was awful. I think he would have done really well over the second half of the season in this formation. Get well soon big man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I never realised how many fouls Wes committed https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/fouls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 Loads of them were never fouls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Big strikers always get harshly penalised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 15/01/2020 at 18:56, Keyblade said: I was referring more to social media which he's most likely to see. It's been nothing but abuse on there. Even on VT, he barely got 10 games before the "I despise him", "worst player I've seen for Villa", "he's a donkey" etc started coming out. It really sucks that a 22 year old, coming to a new league and country can't even get a few months grace period. I think you're making stuff up there. He got a lot of patience. Wasn't until later before the knives were out. Personally I think he's crap and will never make it, but if he proves me wrong... superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I think you're making stuff up there. He got a lot of patience. Wasn't until later before the knives were out. Personally I think he's crap and will never make it, but if he proves me wrong... superb. I mean this thread is public record, but sure I guess. Literally after our 11th game away at Man City: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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