Tomaszk Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 That is loads. If he puts in the level of performance he did last season consistently though, it'll be worth it. I never saw him not being excellent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pez1974 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 £25m? If we're prepared to pay that for a DCM - then Bristol, Bournemouth et al will rightly add £5m-£10m to their asking prices for their players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Stupid money. I don't think he is worth that personally 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) We’re paying a lot for a Championship player who has never played in the Premier League but it’s not like a Ross McCormack signing where there’s no resale value. He’s been excellent for Leeds whenever I’ve seen him and he’s their best player, whatever weakens them pleases me. The gossip might not even be true, let’s wait and see, he strikes me as quite a nasty player, we haven’t had that in our midfield for a long time but at the same time, I don’t want us to turn in to a team of thugs which the media and fans of other clubs might see us as if we sign Mings too but we’ll just have to wait and see. It looks like we’re trying to do our business quickly and efficiently which pleases me Edited June 28, 2019 by sir_gary_cahill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, alreadyexists said: I’d rather get Rongier than Phillips I think, either is taking a small risk. Just my opinion of course. I want us to sign both .... we need x2 DM and if we can get Rongier cheaper by throwing in Kalinic. Phillips is class and exactly what we have been trying out for for years ... a mobile tenacious DM. £25mill is a lot and more than he’s worth but think he could grow into the role and be worth even. Especially if he continues on his current trajectory .. IMO Edited June 28, 2019 by thabucks Spelling ... beers going down too nicely in the sun... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLillis Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 If we get Phillips we won’t regret it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted June 28, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, thabucks said: I want us to sign both .... we need x2 DM and if we can get Rongier cheaper by throwing in Kalinic. Phillips is class and exactly what we have been trying out for for years ... a mobile tenacious DM. £25mill is a lot and more than he’s worth but think he could grow into the role and be worth even. Ore if he continues on his current projectory ... IMO Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: whatever weakens them pleases me. This is like some evil bad guy line - FWIW I fully concur! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Its a steep price but worth it if he signs for 5 years. Think along the lines of Declan Rice, he could be worth £40m+ after a good PL season. The club is going to have to swallow hard and speculate a bit, we are only just getting used to the numbers up here. The mismanagement and under investment of the right kind has cost us dear, its payback time and luckily our owners have the money and in it for the long game. Nice to be associated with very good, young British talent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, Pez1974 said: £25m? If we're prepared to pay that for a DCM - then Bristol, Bournemouth et al will rightly add £5m-£10m to their asking prices for their players. And we will move on if we feel better value can be sort elsewhere IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, villabromsgrove said: We need a holding midfielder who's got 90 minutes flat out stamina and physical athleticism every match and is also an accurate and accomplished passer of the ball. Add a bit of 'nasty' to his on the pitch persona, and you've got Kalvin Philips. The guy's got a good character and training ethic away from match days as well. I'm guessing 18 million plus add ons and a sell on clause could get the deal done. I think most people would be a lot more accepting of that. Even if the remaining £7m ends up being paid over the next two seasons, due to making 50 appearances (for example), this still spreads the cost out and makes it look like a better deal this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Stupid money. I don't think he is worth that personally Declan rice and longstaff are touted at £40mill ( yeah I know paper talk) so put his reported supposed price into context . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent_Bob Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, MarkLillis said: If we get Phillips we won’t regret it. I'm thinking the same as well. We should go for our number one targets, even if the price is a bit higher than we would like. I would rather that we got four out of five top targets, than five other players who are second or third choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted June 28, 2019 Author VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2019 As others have said, these days you don't just pay for the player, you pay for the age, resale value etc etc. This is the market now. Wan-Bassaka went for 50m and he plays a less important position than DM. Longstaff/Rice quoted for 40m etc. I would pay it and get him in. He's exactly what we need. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: As others have said, these days you don't just pay for the player, you pay for the age, resale value etc etc. This is the market now. Wan-Bassaka went for 50m and he plays a less important position than DM. Longstaff/Rice quoted for 40m etc. I would pay it and get him in. He's exactly what we need. I also think you pay a pretty hefty fee for the right nationality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: As others have said, these days you don't just pay for the player, you pay for the age, resale value etc etc. This is the market now. Wan-Bassaka went for 50m and he plays a less important position than DM. Longstaff/Rice quoted for 40m etc. I would pay it and get him in. He's exactly what we need. I'm inclined to agree. If we sign him for 25m and we stay up and he has a fairly decent season, he's probably worth 30m. He's one of the players I was most impressed with last season and he fits the bill for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted June 28, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2019 I’m nervous about us spending that much, even more than Leicester spent on Maddison. But I’m often wrong about these things, so he’s probably going to sign and be brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobsons Choice Posted June 28, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2019 I’ve said it before, but if there is resale value at or in excess of what we pay, then discussing transfer fees, however much they might be is entirely irrelevant. Simple really. Investment. Chucking money at a talented 32 y/o on the downside of their career arc IS worth shouting down, but there is absolutely no way whatsoever that the current owners/DS will do this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Why’s this punk got his own thread ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 28, 2019 Author VT Supporter Share Posted June 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Why’s this punk got his own thread ! Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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