Brumerican Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 19 minutes ago, mjmooney said: If this is true, then it's a very good purchase. I think he'll win any doubters over pretty quickly. Very composed dude who can pick his spot from anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) Adomah out - Jota in That'll do for starters Edited May 31, 2019 by Xela 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Khizzy said: Shrewd move - basically offloaded Gardner to them, got his wages off the bill and Adomah too, while replacing him with a trusted former player of the manager and someone who our Sporting Director knows well for a small fee. Wikipedia has him down as an attacking midfielder, so could potentially be cover not just at RW but also for Jack. Interesting that we've gone for players that can potentially cover a variety of positions, like Mings can play LB and CB, same with Hause and if we are in for James Justin, he can play on either side as a full back. Jota can play in any of the three positions behind the striker. I can see him, El Ghazi and a new winger being our three inter-changeable options for the wing (with Green probably going out on loan to the Championship). He’s very one-footed, like a Spanish Stewart Downing. But I like him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Question is though is he better than adomah? I'm not so sure. The brentford one was but this one? Who knows The Brentford one had Smith managing him, and that makes all the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyg Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 It’s worth the money to see Gardner off....with the players we have released this is an instant improvement for not a lot in this market. He has torn us apart on occasions as many have mentioned, and I was jealous when blues singed him. Good start and I love that we doing business early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7392craig Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, mjmooney said: If this is true, then it's a very good purchase. Definitely, let’s hope he’s worth all the hype that was around him when he signed for the blues. They all had massive hard ons for him at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 31, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted May 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jimmyg said: He has torn us apart on occasions as many have mentioned, and I was jealous when blues singed him. A lot of players have got burned going there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, 7392craig said: Definitely, let’s hope he’s worth all the hype that was around him when he signed for the blues. They all had massive hard ons for him at the time. 8 pages so far and most of which seem to have a similar stiffy or at the least a semi lob on........ I'm still not over impressed. I guess it depends if he's going to first choice or a squad player. Squad player maybe, first choice erm !!!! Only time will tell and will be more than happy to eat the old humble pie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Not sure im all up for this. Cheap enough, but not sure he’s a prem player . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 31, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted May 31, 2019 Just now, Rugeley Villa said: Not sure im all up for this. Cheap enough, but not sure he’s a prem player . Smiffy'll turn him into one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 Two players for every position. It has to be the rule. We are still light a winger. That's before we consider Green going on loan, which has an air of inevitability about it. El Ghazi and Jota is a start. Give me another of El Ghazi's quality and I'm happy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted May 31, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted May 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Not sure im all up for this. Cheap enough, but not sure he’s a prem player . If he was a guaranteed prem player we wouldn't be getting him for a Gary gardner! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted May 31, 2019 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2019 Apparently, if Gardner can't agree terms but Jota does it will become a regular cash deal. Instead of £4m + Gardner it'll be a straight £3m. 3 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompedyret Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 The last five-ten years there's been an unnerving amount of highly rated and/or expensive players who turned to shit or semi-shit while being with AVFC, just to go on and play the best football of their careers with other teams. Hopefully the opposite will happen with Jota in the hands of Dean, and that it's the start of a new and positive trend. Jota, let's see you turn into a £20 mill player, despite your silly name! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 I don't think he's good enough for the Premier League. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 16 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Smiffy'll turn him into one. We are not sure Smith is a prem manager yet. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Not sure im all up for this. Cheap enough, but not sure he’s a prem player . if he isnt, we lost a couple of million quid, nothing to lose. If he does well, its a bargain. No reason not to tbh, and it shows that the recruitment team are being intelligent, im sure we will sign other "expensive-ish" players in the midfield area and Jota will compete for a place in the first 11, i dont see any negatives to this deal, he either succeeds or he doesnt, and we havent wasted 25m on trying to find out. I would call this an intelligent deal tbh. Edited May 31, 2019 by MaVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mjmooney Posted May 31, 2019 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: We are not sure Smith is a prem manager yet. I am. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, PompeyVillan said: I don't think he's good enough for the Premier League. I think he'll be decent cover but certainly not a starter, happy enough with this signing in order to strengthen the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Field Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) For a player that has played chamtionship football, he does not have great stats. He's a birmingham player (let's face it, we all know the fans will turn on him if he does not perform quickly), he'll be 28 when the season starts with no previous premier league experience. Hasn't performed well for a few seasons. I am also worried with all the brentford/previous Brentford players we are being linked to, as Smith never even finished in the play-offs with them, nor have they been any better since he left. There is a huge gap between midtable championship and bottom premier league. I feel like offensive players usually struggle to jump from the championsip to the prem, except when they are extraordinarily talented But, Smith defo deserves to be trusted after last season, he get's a player he knows well and £4m is not alot in todays market ! let's just make sure we don't sign him on more than a two year contract, so we aren't stuck with another overpaid 30+ year old in a few years. He's apparently on a 35k wage, which is pretty steep, would want to be paid more too if coming to the prem. Overall, doesnt fill me with confidence, doubt he is premier league standard, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, especially if signed as back-up. Though, I did think we were gonna be going for resale value when signing players, nearly feel like we could have kept Adomah (even though he has been poor for ages) instead. Edited May 31, 2019 by Chicken Field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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