markavfc40 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, fruitvilla said: If Lineker was espousing say anti-vaxxer rhetoric I don't think people would be as keen to deride BBC's position. You've taken two extremes and said they should be seen in the same way. He has said something factually accurate. Edited March 11, 2023 by markavfc40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 11, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 11, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/entertainment-arts-64895316 Quote "When asked if he would remove other presenters like Lord Sugar, Chris Packham or Karren Brady who also give their opinions, he said: "the current guidelines as they exist today... do draw distinction between those people who are seen as pan-BBC figures... that are different to those appearing on programmes." What the hell does that even mean? How do you become a pan-BBC figure rather than someone who appears on programmes? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 11, 2023 Author Moderator Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/entertainment-arts-64895316 What the hell does that even mean? How do you become a pan-BBC figure rather than someone who appears on programmes? It means its bullshit and everyone can see that 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 58 minutes ago, bickster said: What changed? The rules. Duh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted March 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2023 39 minutes ago, fruitvilla said: I think part of the problem is celebrity pundits have "an excessive" access to the ears of the people. If Lineker was espousing say anti-vaxxer rhetoric I don't think people would be as keen to deride BBC's position. But that would be because nothing Lineker said was inaccurate, whereas anti vax bullshit is scientifically proven to be dangerous rubbish pushing people in to the arms of right wing nut job conspiracy theorists. It just isn’t a comparison of equal ideas. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 BBC is state media. We should all boycott it. It’s shit anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 11, 2023 Author Moderator Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: BBC is state media. We should all boycott it. It’s shit anyway. Hi Nadine 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, bickster said: It means its bullshit and everyone can see that Yes he is spouting absolute tripe. I'd say if anything your average Joe would be more inclined to see Alan Sugar as nothing more than the guy off the BBC show the Apprentice than you would see Gary Lineker guy off the BBC show Motd. Anyone over 40 would certainly think of Gary Lineker and think decent footballer first and foremost rather than his 1 hour 20 mins a week, for 9 months of the year, association with the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted March 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: BBC is state media. We should all boycott it. It’s shit anyway. All of it is shit? The classical music at 8:00am? The new indie tracks on BBC 6? BBC 4 tv channel music and history documentary content? Give your head a wobble lad. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 The BBC sink to a new low, posting for Keneths 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: But that would be because nothing Lineker said was inaccurate, whereas anti vax bullshit is scientifically proven to be dangerous rubbish pushing people in to the arms of right wing nut job conspiracy theorists. It just isn’t a comparison of equal ideas. I never claimed the ideas were equal ... But your reply does imply you would be in favour of "cancelling" people who promote inaccurate ideas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: All of it is shit? The classical music at 8:00am? The new indie tracks on BBC 6? BBC 4 tv channel music and history documentary content? Give your head a wobble lad. You can find all that on YouTube or Audible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted March 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2023 Just now, fruitvilla said: I never claimed the ideas were equal ... But your reply does imply you would be in favour of "cancelling" people who promote inaccurate ideas. Inaccurate I can live with. Genuinely mistaken I can live with. Different ideas to the ones I agree with, I can live with. But I would not give media coverage to people who’s ideas are proven rubbish and potentially kill people. It’s not cancelling people to not promote dangerous rubbish we know to be dangerous rubbish. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: You can find all that on YouTube or Audible! What news is this? YouTube commissioned Cerys Matthew's’ Sunday morning programme? Genuine news to me, cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, chrisp65 said: What news is this? YouTube commissioned Cerys Matthew's’ Sunday morning programme? Genuine news to me, cheers. Google really is my friend when I post off topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Google really is my friend when I post off topic Genuinely haven’t got a clue what that means sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mjmooney Posted March 11, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: But I would not give media coverage to people who’s ideas are proven rubbish and potentially kill people. It’s not cancelling people to not promote dangerous rubbish we know to be dangerous rubbish. Exactly. Quote "Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding it's way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" Isaac Asimov 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted March 11, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Harkanon said: This is wrong. https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/telling-us-you-dont-need-a-tv-licence It is clear, even on their website You say it's clear, but they don't seem to define "TV" which to me seems a bit of an oversight. Unless I'm being stupid. Is CNN TV? Is a live stream of a rocket launch on YouTube TV? Do they mean specifically UK produced programmes? Or any programmes that are shown on TV in the UK, but then does that include, say, clips of Hey Duggee on YouTube? I don't think it's clear at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Genuinely haven’t got a clue what that means sorry. I had no idea who Nadine or Cerys Mathews were. Had to google them both. Surely you can live without the BBC? Edited March 11, 2023 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted March 11, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I had no idea who Nadine or Cerys Mathew were. Had to google them both. Surely you can live without the BBC? You should watch it all. But go from 2:40 if you don’t want to. He’s spot on. edit - NSFW Edited March 11, 2023 by Mark Albrighton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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