The Biased Broadcasting Corporation

[Seat68]

Right topic this time. 

Edited March 11, 2023 by Seat68

[bickster]

Just now, colhint said:

Back to teletex then

If only Rumbelows still existed

[OutByEaster?]

We're a couple of newsreaders and a light entertainment host away from a full scale revolt at the Beeb against their own senior management team.

Sharp out!

[markavfc40]

It will be interesting to see how this all ends but I'd imagine already that if whoever made the decision to pull Lineker had their time again then they wouldn't have done it. They have opened up a can of worms and actually achieved the opposite of what they wanted to do. They wanted to reinforce their need to be impartial when in fact they have simply highlighted the fact that impartiality is only one way and that they'll turn a blind eye to those who work for them who make comments that toe the government line.

If the government/Tory Mp's/right wing rags hadn't had a pile on regarding Linekers comments then there is no way we'd be where we are now so the BBC have simply shown themselves to be right wing biased which it has increasingly become since 2010.

Of course there is a need for impartiality and there is zero doubt that they are no longer anything like impartial. That is nothing to do with some football presenter making factually correct comments on twitter though. The impartiality has ceased as they have increasingly become defenders of the government. 

 

 

[Seat68]

I think when the guidelines came out regarding social media, certainly the BBC journalists I followed when I was on Twitter weren’t happy, they are however little fish compared to Lineker. This could well escalate and questions asked about wider impartiality from the top to the bottom. 

[choffer]

It continues:

 

[trekka]

The BBC have thrown in Bargain Hunt into the slot normally used by Football Focus.  Bloody Bargain Hunt! At least have some imagination.  It's on twice in one day.

Edited March 11, 2023 by trekka

[markavfc40]

Hopefully all clubs follow suit.

 

[Genie]

Wow, this is incredible! 

[OutByEaster?]

I wonder how much resentment there has been bubbling away at the BBC around their senior team and the way they've been asked to do things - it seems to me like there are a lot of people supporting this opportunity to try to change it.

I also wonder if the people at the top live in such a bubble that they don't realise that the whole country sees through the obvious bias and influence the Tory party has on the BBC, that they believe we're all actually in it and behind them and that the polls are nothing to worry about - I get a real feeling that they've completely misunderstood their audience - a feeling that they control the narrative and therefore everyone believes them, that simply doesn't carry through to the population.

Social media has a lot to answer for, but it's successfully undermining an attempt to overthrow independent broadcasting at one of our largest institutions and I think it should get some credit for that.

I really believe that we're now in a position where the only outcome will be that Sharp or Davie, or both, will have to go in order to bring order back to the BBC. 

We're a Claudia Winkleman away from anarchy, and that's not a phrase I ever thought would make the slightest bit of sense.

 

[chrisp65]

10 minutes ago, choffer said:

It continues:

 

 

Bloody hell, Mohammad was my tip yesterday for hosting MOTD, now he’s not even doing his own programme.

A man that would willingly sell his own nan to progress in the BBC, out in solidarity with others.

The problem now is its flipped, it would become a political statement to be the scab that breaks the line. 

[villarule123]

This is brilliant 

[blandy]

7 minutes ago, markavfc40 said:

The impartiality has ceased as they have increasingly become defenders of the government. 

It's interesting, because who is "they"?

I think that what's happened is that the Tories have essentially placed other tories into the top layers of the management of the BBC. The rest of the BBC, slightly and much lower lower down is still the same as it ever was, really. They make a mix of programmes and broadcasts and internet stuff on a huge range of things, nearly all of which is entirely unaffected by political bias, political pressure or whatever. That part of the BBC never was and isn't "defenders of the Government". It's probably populated by people with a mix of views, but to the centre or left of centre, overall, below the top tier.

Within News and Political comment areas, which rightly should be neutral, politically, the effect of the tory placemen is more of an issue - they have driven the BBC News and current affairs output to be more "pro establishment" than it used to be - it's always been a bit that way, it's just that the current "establishment" is a particularly shouty and inept, culture war stoking Conservative government. The BBC should be politically neutral, it should not be the broadcasting arm of the Government - it's the national broadcaster, not the state broadcaster.

In allowing clearly unsuitable people to be appointed to roles at the top, there's no moral authority for them to demand complete neutrality, including away from their on-screen roles, from presenters. It's blatantly apparent, whatever anyone's political stance, that double standards are at play. It's also apparent that the odd word from the government to one of their top BBC appointees and the BBC then bends to the will of the government minister - that's not what should happen at all.

Because the BBC's income is essentially controlled by the Government of the day, they will always be slightly susceptible to government pressure, and always have been and that's why they are a bit "pro establishment".

The Lineker thing - that's just a reflection of all of the above, really, with him and his sports colleagues pushing back against the double standards.

[Genie]

 

Edited March 11, 2023 by Genie

[BOF]

 

[Genie]

So you’re allowed to be biased as long as it is supporting the Government. Got it. 

[markavfc40]

Could be starting to run deeper than just TV broadcasts.

 

[trekka]

Final Score now replaced with The Repair Shop. 

[Xann]

2 hours ago, Lichfield Dean said:

And every now and again they send some relatively minor department to Brum and claim they are expanding. It is and will be nowhere near what it was during the Pebble Mill heydays even when they move to the tea factory in Digbeth.

It's never going to be the same as Pebble Mill because technology has changed and they outsource much of the work. It's NEP's cameras and broadcast galleries at all the football grounds. I worked with 'Simply Come Dancing' and 'Top Gear' and they were made in Soho, not at BBC facilities Also there was a lot of bloat. Some of the BBC departments had a dozen staff when a similar team in the private sector had three or four. You start working on that, you get a lot more space, but that's good if you need to save £700,000,000 because you can get a lot of property off the books. Though that does make it look like the BBC is shutting down and f**king off, it is just rationalising.

Birmingham is a focus for the BBC right now, so wait and see.

[Guest av1]

If the BBC had anything about them they’d have a laugh at themselves by employing a couple of impressionists like Mcgawan, Partridge and Bremner to play the roles. 

For that brain dead tit Murphy they could have just borrowed a skeleton from a local medical facility