choffer Posted March 11, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: if we move into a phase of total mistruth and suspicion, what the hell do we become? America? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, choffer said: America? Sadly I fear it would be something even worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jareth Posted March 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said: Ain’t that the sad truth. I said to the missus earlier this evening, there’s no such thing as the news any longer, all we get is a version of some news to fit an agenda / narrative. I actually think it’s quite possibly the biggest danger we face socially, if we move into a phase of total mistruth and suspicion, what the hell do we become? Yep - it's difficult - we've all been let down. My theory is that I go with the British news, until it is obvious it's full of shit. Not sure you can beat that. It's rubbish - for a long time now politicians have derided footballers for overstepping the mark - they do not like anyone with a platform criticising their actions, but the country now doesn't agree and the footballers are the edge of that - good on everyone backing Lineker up, he's no paragon of virtue but amongst the football community he is and I'm happy to follow his lead. Has it been seen? Edited March 11, 2023 by Jareth 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted March 11, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 11, 2023 36 minutes ago, Jareth said: Yep - it's difficult - we've all been let down. My theory is that I go with the British news, until it is obvious it's full of shit. Not sure you can beat that. It's rubbish - for a long time now politicians have derided footballers for overstepping the mark - they do not like anyone with a platform criticising their actions, but the country now doesn't agree and the footballers are the edge of that - good on everyone backing Lineker up, he's no paragon of virtue but amongst the football community he is and I'm happy to follow his lead. Has it been seen? That tweet is what I call a mic drop. Hot damn. He got the lot in there and finished it off with the Qatar thing. Chef's **** kiss. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted March 11, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 11, 2023 This should not disappear in one week. Unless something happens, we're still in the exact same position next week. It doesn't become old hat just by being a week old. I'm fascinated to see what the next move will be. Neither side can climb down without massive face loss. My prediction is a private conversation where private agreements that will remain private are agreed upon and everything returns to a normal. But I hope not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 8 hours ago, ml1dch said: Not really. They're between a rock and a relatively comfortable pillow. They could have taken the pillow option of "like countless non-news presenters in the past, Gary Lineker has chosen to share personal views which are unrelated to his presenting duties on BBC Sport. As they do not relate to his BBC role, the organisation has no comment to make on them" But they've decided to smash themselves in the face with a rock instead. That would have ended the controversy as far as people who support him are concerned but it would not have ended the controversy for the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jjaacckk91 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Jareth said: Yep - it's difficult - we've all been let down. My theory is that I go with the British news, until it is obvious it's full of shit. Not sure you can beat that. It's rubbish - for a long time now politicians have derided footballers for overstepping the mark - they do not like anyone with a platform criticising their actions, but the country now doesn't agree and the footballers are the edge of that - good on everyone backing Lineker up, he's no paragon of virtue but amongst the football community he is and I'm happy to follow his lead. Has it been seen? Kaveh or whoever scripted that segment did a fantastic job, I'm also surprised sky would green light that given their affiliations, but maybe they see an opportunity to end motd or get it on sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 7 hours ago, Johnnyp said: Why did Ferguson boycott them for years ? Wait, what…..I don’t? I love Great British Menu and The Repair Shop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 7 hours ago, choffer said: I’m fully expecting this nonsensical debacle to embolden the twunts to start briefing in the next few days how it all shows how the bbc is not fit for purpose and it’s time to scrap the tv licence. Who are the twunts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted March 11, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 9 hours ago, Xann said: The words removed that led the nation down the garden path over a number of elections.need the BBC neutralised, that's why it's been nobbled. Don't finish the job for them. Don't get outmanoeuvred again. Don't just fall into the next trap, after the double dose of Brexit and its PM. The BBC needs an enema to shift the Tory turds out of its system, not an executioner. A new entrance system is being formulated now. The guy in charge is also quite busy with the BBC's redistribution of resources out of London. Salford wasn't a one off, BBC Birmingham is expanding too. I was at the BBC in Brum when the Salford thing happened. They basically gutted the operations in the Midlands and set up a mini London in Manchester. The Salford thing basically reduced the BBC presence in the wider regions rather than increasing it, and meant that the Midlands in particular ended up by far with the worst ratio of benefit-to-cost ratio of the licence fee. And every now and again they send some relatively minor department to Brum and claim they are expanding. It is and will be nowhere near what it was during the Pebble Mill heydays even when they move to the tea factory in Digbeth. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 9 hours ago, Johnnyp said: Why did Ferguson boycott them for years ? He was able to until 2010/2011 when he ended his boycott, because the rules forced him to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 11, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: Ain’t that the sad truth. I said to the missus earlier this evening, there’s no such thing as the news any longer, all we get is a version of some news to fit an agenda / narrative. I actually think it’s quite possibly the biggest danger we face socially, if we move into a phase of total mistruth and suspicion, what the hell do we become? I think your LESS likely to encounter blatant lies following mainstream media than for example getting your news off twitter or bloggers. They still have certain oversight. I'm not saying it's perfect and I'm sure you could deluge me with examples but if you're not dumb and read various sources you've got a better chance of getting to the facts than in the internet wild West. Be interesting to see if The Guardian get hauled over the coals over this Attenborough story. Edited March 11, 2023 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 11, 2023 Author Moderator Share Posted March 11, 2023 Football Focus off the air now too 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted March 11, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Lichfield Dean said: I was at the BBC in Brum when the Salford thing happened. They basically gutted the operations in the Midlands and set up a mini London in Manchester. The Salford thing basically reduced the BBC presence in the wider regions rather than increasing it, and meant that the Midlands in particular ended up by far with the worst ratio of benefit-to-cost ratio of the licence fee. And every now and again they send some relatively minor department to Brum and claim they are expanding. It is and will be nowhere near what it was during the Pebble Mill heydays even when they move to the tea factory in Digbeth. I also remember when we had an all hands meeting at the Mailbox and they were talking about shutting down all the TV production in Birmingham. A big boss lady explained how they wanted to reduce the number of production centres in the country and they'd decided to shut down Birmingham's TV production teams. A lot of the TV people were to be scattered to places like Bristol and Cardiff. Somebody asked why if they wanted to consolidate TV production they only seemed to be shutting one of seven major production sites and boss lady said something like, "well six is less than seven isn't it?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted March 11, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 I'm hearing final score has gone too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted March 11, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, bickster said: Football Focus off the air now too Alex Scott and Kelly Somers have both tweeted that they won't be on the BBC today. The madness that the BBC have created for themselves continues! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted March 11, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 Own goal of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 11, 2023 Author Moderator Share Posted March 11, 2023 Just now, mjmooney said: Own goal of the season. Certainly lost the dressing room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 36 minutes ago, villarule123 said: I'm hearing final score has gone too. Back to teletex then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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