foreveryoung Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 4 minutes ago, Davkaus said: The answer is 'reasonable force'. Call me a liberal cuck who's infected by the woke mind virus, but what I want is police officers able to subdue a violent mob, while not going quite so far as to kick floored people in the face and then stamping on their head when they're no longer an active threat. Head stomping bad. Helplessly watching on as people burn down buildings, bad. Maybe there's something in the middle, yeah? That's fine. I didn't ask for a silly reply. An nowhere did I ever agree with the head stomp. But one thing i know is, you don't stop riots without a bit of extreme violence. So a few might be upset when you see the metal batons being waved around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Just now, sidcow said: Good job we've got loads of space in prisons currently. Plenty of these lads are going to have the joy of being locked up for months in noisy, brightly lit police stations without the usual prison facilities, tough luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 4 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: What's the difference. Some asking to stop them with extreme violence? Most of the riotersare just being dicks, the guy at the airport tried to seriously injure armed officers. I don't think I've spoken about it but, broadly speaking, I'd be of the same opinion as I was with the Manchester airport situation... absolutely fine to use appropriate force to apprehend the offenders; not OK to boot and stamp on someone's head when they're already detained. I suppose it'd be nice to see racists get a proper beating, but that isn't the job of the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 1 minute ago, Genie said: Doesn’t help that there are no police officers getting involved in stopping it. It’s really bizarre to watch. Are the fire brigade there? I can't get my head round all this to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 2 minutes ago, Genie said: Doesn’t help that there are no police officers getting involved in stopping it. It’s really bizarre to watch. Shit wage, public hate you, hurt someone and you'll be suspended. I can see why they aren't getting involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 3 minutes ago, sidcow said: Good job we've got loads of space in prisons currently. There's always some flight to Rwanda ready to take off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 4 VT Supporter Share Posted August 4 50 minutes ago, Genie said: I wonder how proud man in white shirt will be when he’s in the dock. **** evil rocket polishers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 1 minute ago, markavfc40 said: Are the fire brigade there? I can't get my head round all this to be honest. I’ve not seen any on the videos. Maybe they refuse to attend if the situation is not under control. It would only take 2 or 3 officers to cover that small smashed window. What will the police do if dozens start piling inside the building? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 I'm probably part of the problem for actively consuming these stories, but it probably doesn't help matters having the national news broadcasting the locations of trouble so more people can go and join in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daweii Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 1 minute ago, markavfc40 said: Are the fire brigade there? I can't get my head round all this to be honest. Probably deemed too dangerous for the fire fighters to do their jobs. I mean, if the police are sat back with shields half way down the street, then the fire fighters aren't going anywhere near that fire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Police drone circling above the rioters getting lots of 4k images of who to arrest over the next days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 4 VT Supporter Share Posted August 4 46 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: Am I missing something here? the Police are standing metres away just letting this happen. Surely the Police should be stepping in. As I predicted the crowd is clearly growing and becoming more emboldened. They're obviously outnumbered and reinforcements should be there by now. They are literally burning down a building with people (presumably) inside in full view unopposed. If we've lost the manpower due to the running down the police then the really do need to bring in the army to protect people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 It would be amazing to see hundreds of police officers turn up and circle the mob, and arrest every single one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted August 4 Popular Post Share Posted August 4 I don't think I'd be too happy if a mob came and set fire to my house, potentially with people still inside, and the Police rocked up and did f all therefore not allowing the fire brigade to get access. It is bizarre. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 9 minutes ago, bobzy said: I don't think I've spoken about it but, broadly speaking, I'd be of the same opinion as I was with the Manchester airport situation... absolutely fine to use appropriate force to apprehend the offenders; not OK to boot and stamp on someone's head when they're already detained. I suppose it'd be nice to see racists get a proper beating, but that isn't the job of the police. Far too many racists in this Country for the Old Bill to deal with. What about the ones we can't see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Just now, markavfc40 said: I don't think I'd be too happy if a mob came and set fire to my house, potentially with people still inside, and the Police rocked up and did f all therefore not allowing the fire brigade to get access. It is bizarre. Same, I appreciate the tense situation, but it only needed 2 or 3 to move from the corner of the building ~10m away and cover that window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 4 VT Supporter Share Posted August 4 26 minutes ago, mjmooney said: What we need now is... rain. Riots are always in the summer. The hotter the worse as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottaloo Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 I did say to my other half who is a serving officer that the police should use their water cannon wagons and disperse/soak the scumbags. She told me that Teresa May sold them all off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 1 minute ago, Genie said: Same, I appreciate the tense situation, but it only needed 2 or 3 to move from the corner of the building ~10m away and cover that window. I have just read that Staffordshire Police have said specialist officers are dealing with the incident. I'd love to know what their specialism is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 2 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: I don't think I'd be too happy if a mob came and set fire to my house, potentially with people still inside, and the Police rocked up and did f all therefore not allowing the fire brigade to get access. It is bizarre. Guys inside must be safe. Police don't give a shit about business property, unless it's owned by the government, you know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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