StefanAVFC Posted August 4 VT Supporter Share Posted August 4 Just now, Genie said: Here, are you back now? Force of habit id never ever come back properly tbh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 4 minutes ago, Chindie said: Tamworth is the kind of place this would kick off. Majority white but obviously on the outskirts of a region that is very multicultural. The places that most fall foul to the populist racist rhetoric, because it represents change that they're afraid of. The same places that fell for Brexit. Chuck in some heavy wealth inequality, extended good weather and a measly spark, and it'll go. I’d argue all of the places where it’s been particularly bad are towns/cities that are very heavily majority white (Hull, Rotherham, Liverpool, Tamworth etc) - maybe doesn’t particularly show much, but possibly less “integrated” than other areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor-Cal Villan Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 25 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Nowhere in that comment did I blame immigration for the countries problems, I know the Tories have f****ed it up. But I admit I did say previously it hasn't helped the mess we are in. Anyone who says otherwise is a bit nieve and kidding themselves. What does Elvis Costello’s sidekick have to do with this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 4 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: We don’t need illegal immigration for jobs. We need immigration. Especially brown immigration since we left the EU and it’s harder for Bulgarians and Romanians to come over here to do the jobs we don’t want to do. I agree. I'm only disagreeing with illegal immigration, which as much as people don't like to admit it. Is people paying smugglers and coming across on dingies. I want that stopped, not immigration. But as siad I also disagree with oopening the boarders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 (edited) 5 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: I agree. I'm only disagreeing with illegal immigration, which as much as people don't like to admit it. Is people paying smugglers and coming across on dingies. I want that stopped, not immigration. But as siad I also disagree with oopening the boarders. I haven't researched this but I wonder what the cost of these riots will be on the tax payer compared to recent illegal immigration. The numbers really aren't as high as the media portray. Is it really a crisis ? Edited August 4 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor-Cal Villan Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 26 minutes ago, NorthernGordon said: Mostly biographies about musicians and boxers (my two passions music and boxing), with some travel books and other sports books 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 4 Moderator Share Posted August 4 9 minutes ago, NorthernGordon said: He's talking a good talk but will we see actual strict punishments being handed out? I hope it's not just lip service. He was the DPP in 2011 the last time we had widespread riots, in that sense he’s the right man for this particular job. They were still making arrests a year later and a lot of people were jailed, many with very long sentences. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 7 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Force of habit id never ever come back properly tbh Stay in Poland aye. Police brutality at it's best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted August 4 VT Supporter Share Posted August 4 Some of the videos I have seen of 3 or 4 of these thugs beating up one bloke, its disgusting. Their faces are fully on show, these bastards need to be punished, special courts and special prisons. If it's not dealt with adequately and quickly then the whole lots gonna blow up. The police can only do so much with the numbers they have, we are on the brink. I just hope they dont grow the balls to demo in brum, police will have to be out in thousands if they do judging by the last time they made a visit, absolute chaos leading to general disorder all over, looting and a lawless situation.Stop them now, bring the army in if you have to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 If this continues for a few more weeks how are the police going to be able to police this along with the football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 22 minutes ago, bobzy said: Blame is quite an interesting word though. We’re basically saying that someone willing to risk their life to get to somewhere that they feel will better them is to blame… rather than, say, a government having a safe and efficient (maybe the last bit is a stretch…) asylum system. Blame. Yeah, pretty rough. I hope it's clear that I was just trying to clarify the potential misunderstanding rather than it being my view 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 2 minutes ago, tinker said: Some of the videos I have seen of 3 or 4 of these thugs beating up one bloke, its disgusting. Their faces are fully on show, these bastards need to be punished, special courts and special prisons. If it's not dealt with adequately and quickly then the whole lots gonna blow up. The police can only do so much with the numbers they have, we are on the brink. I just hope they dont grow the balls to demo in brum, police will have to be out in thousands if they do judging by the last time they made a visit, absolute chaos leading to general disorder all over, looting and a lawless situation.Stop them now, bring the army in if you have to. Brum planned for the 17th apparently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_H Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 2 minutes ago, tinker said: Some of the videos I have seen of 3 or 4 of these thugs beating up one bloke, its disgusting. Their faces are fully on show, these bastards need to be punished, special courts and special prisons. If it's not dealt with adequately and quickly then the whole lots gonna blow up. The police can only do so much with the numbers they have, we are on the brink. I just hope they dont grow the balls to demo in brum, police will have to be out in thousands if they do judging by the last time they made a visit, absolute chaos leading to general disorder all over, looting and a lawless situation.Stop them now, bring the army in if you have to. Started in Solihull tonight by the sounds of it, outside the Ramada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 2 minutes ago, tinker said: Some of the videos I have seen of 3 or 4 of these thugs beating up one bloke, its disgusting. Their faces are fully on show, these bastards need to be punished, special courts and special prisons. If it's not dealt with adequately and quickly then the whole lots gonna blow up. The police can only do so much with the numbers they have, we are on the brink. I just hope they dont grow the balls to demo in brum, police will have to be out in thousands if they do judging by the last time they made a visit, absolute chaos leading to general disorder all over, looting and a lawless situation.Stop them now, bring the army in if you have to. Don't underestimate my Asian Brothers. The days of them taking a backward step are long over. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 2 minutes ago, Rich_H said: Started in Solihull tonight by the sounds of it, outside the Ramada. That's smart. Where there's least ethnic minorities. It's all so predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Brum planned for the 17th apparently. This can't go on for another fortnight, surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 4 minutes ago, Rich_H said: Started in Solihull tonight by the sounds of it, outside the Ramada. It's also kicked off in Tamworth. A Holiday Inn being smashed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 1 minute ago, AshVilla said: It's also kicked off in Tamworth. A Holiday Inn being smashed up. See up the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 4 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: Don't underestimate my Asian Brothers. The days of them taking a backward step are long over. This happened in Stoke and the scum like Tommy R are crying about it on X. Muslim gangs attacking innocents etc They will twist everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 1 minute ago, sheepyvillian said: That's smart. Where there's least ethnic minorities. It's all so predictable. You'd think Birmingham would have been the place to kick off. But I guess it's a bit heavy for them there. They won't need the police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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