Chindie Posted August 4 VT Supporter Share Posted August 4 5 years for planning a peaceful protest. Let's see what actual violence and destruction gets. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark Albrighton Posted August 4 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 4 Hopefully no innocent statues have been damaged by any of this. That’s my main concern. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 16 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: What would you want them to do? Stamp on a few heads ? There might be a middle ground between stamping on the head of someone on the floor, and standing by and watching as people throw rocks and bottles at people, I reckon, but I'm no policing expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rugeley Villa Posted August 4 Popular Post Share Posted August 4 1 hour ago, Genie said: Lovely leaving gift from the Tories isn’t it. Pack the hotels with asylum seekers, don’t process their applications, blame everything that’s wrong on them, continually stoke the fire… then bugger off just in time for the fuse to hit the explosives. Nah you can’t put this on the Tories man 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 4 Moderator Share Posted August 4 11 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: Yes he didn't hold back did he. Action will speak louder than words though. Just heard it again, I missed it the first time but he’s going after those who have been whipping it up online too. It will be interesting to see how far that’s pushed. Oakshot, Grimes? Robinson and his cohort for sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 1 minute ago, Rugeley Villa said: Nah you can’t put this on the Tories man You pretty much can. They’ve literally had a slogan of “stop the boats” (they’re only real campaign for anything) for ages and created a divided society. Guess what happens when you stoke like that? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 2 minutes ago, Davkaus said: There might be a middle ground between stamping on the head of someone on the floor, and standing by and watching as people throw rocks and bottles at people, I reckon, but I'm no policing expert. Those clearings in the woods at the airport are no different to the ones rioting . I weren’t being funny just seeing if you thought we should fight violence with violence. I wouldn’t oblige in the slightest if a few heads got kicked in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 4 Moderator Share Posted August 4 2 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Nah you can’t put this on the Tories man Who else is this on? It is absolutely on the Tories 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Lay with dogs, get fleas. The tories milked this for years because they are scum. They just didn’t see the new reform scum stealing their votes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Just now, bickster said: Who else is this on? It is absolutely on the Tories If I were apportioning blame then I'd still probably be putting the individuals themselves at the top of the pile. Tory hands have been dipped in the blood, no doubt. But they're accessories to the crime rather than perpetrators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottaloo Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 I was on a night shift, wfh. It wasn't busy so I was on twitter and news channels a lot and - my own fault I know - I am thoroughly down and upset about all the disorder going on. It also made me realise just how many feral, feckless scummy people live in this country. I know sky TV etc like to sex it all up and sensationalise stuff in the name of "entertainment" but different locations it's the same types....fat, bald gammon blokes, toothless, equally fat gobby women and scrawny youths decked out in balaclavas all off to loot (even greggs which I found ironic, given its essential support to the local community) and kick the sh!t out of anyone with brown skin who catches their eye. Depressing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 3 minutes ago, bickster said: Who else is this on? It is absolutely on the Tories So the Tories are making and telling people to riot ? Nah I’m not having it. Was it the Tories fault those 3 girls got killed too? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 4 Moderator Share Posted August 4 1 minute ago, ml1dch said: If I were apportioning blame then I'd still probably be putting the individuals themselves at the top of the pile. Tory hands have been dipped in the blood, no doubt. But they're accessories to the crime rather than perpetrators. The post wasn’t about the rioters if you read the quote in the post I quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 4 Moderator Share Posted August 4 Just now, Rugeley Villa said: So the Tories are making and telling people to riot ? Nah I’m not having it. Was it the Tories fault those 3 girls got killed too? Read the bit you quoted from genie, it’s not talking about rioters per se, it’s talk8ng about who caused the conditions for this to happen. And that is most definitely on the Tories 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 5 minutes ago, bobzy said: You pretty much can. They’ve literally had a slogan of “stop the boats” (they’re only real campaign for anything) for ages and created a divided society. Guess what happens when you stoke like that? But the boats needed to stop . A divided society has been going on for years and years. The Tories lost power easily . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 4 Moderator Share Posted August 4 Just now, Rugeley Villa said: But the boats needed to stop Yes for the safety of the people in them. Funny thing is, the only boat I’ve heard mentioned this week is the Titanic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bobzy Posted August 4 Popular Post Share Posted August 4 20 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: But the boats needed to stop . A divided society has been going on for years and years. The Tories lost power easily . Yes, it has. I’d say much pretty much since the Tories were in power and pushed for a Brexit referendum. They’ve given rise to an awful lot of division in this country for no **** reason at all. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 31 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Nah you can’t put this on the Tories man Why not? They have had “stop the boats” front and centre for years, and they held the asylum seekers in hotels rather than process their claims. Then you get a trigger and boom, it’s the asylum seekers fault. It’s 100% on the Tories. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 30 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Those clearings in the woods at the airport are no different to the ones rioting . I weren’t being funny just seeing if you thought we should fight violence with violence. I wouldn’t oblige in the slightest if a few heads got kicked in. I'll admit I misjudged the tone of your post and got myself ready for an arguement I posted yesterday that I saw I woman get bottled in the face. I was probably 10 metres away, he did it right in front of the line of coppers..I heard the one next to me radio in to check if it was on CCTV. It was, so do you know what they did? **** all. I imagine the plan is to then go and arrest him at home when there's less rush of escalating, meanwhile that guy was free to remain in the mob to attack other people. Same for the scum attacking those nurses. While they're just causing a scene and shouting, leave them to it, but when they start being a threat to others, get the **** tear gas out, in my book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 4 Moderator Share Posted August 4 Slight change of narrative on the Sky News ticker, since Starmer’s announcement, they’ve started using the term anti-immigration rioters and not protesters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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