hippo Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: If he wanted to leave because he is no longer captain then what would that say about his character? Thankfully I think he is bigger than that. Would say to me that another club appreciate him more. If we were winning trophies and fighting for Europe yeah fair enough - but we are most likely going to mid table. Gerrard has brought in 2 CBS now. If I was TM - I'd say "fine Stevie - you don't rate me - I will find a manager who does" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 44 minutes ago, nick76 said: Does make me think that maybe Mings isn’t a guaranteed starter from now on, maybe Gerrard is thinking he may favour a combo that doesn’t include Mings to start. Probably not the case but still arguably a big move by Gerrard switching the captaincy for very little benefit, so does raise questions why beyond the snippets he gave in the media report. There should be no guaranteed starters, that's the point of having a squad. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: If he wanted to leave because he is no longer captain then what would that say about his character? Thankfully I think he is bigger than that. Probably told SG to pick another captain as he's off elsewhere as Safegate has told him to move on so he can pick him again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, hippo said: Would say to me that another club appreciate him more. If we were winning trophies and fighting for Europe yeah fair enough - but we are most likely going to mid table. Gerrard has brought in 2 CBS now. If I was TM - I'd say "fine Stevie - you don't rate me - I will find a manager who does" If this is true he’s probably been told he can leave if he wishes too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: If this is true he’s probably been told he can leave if he wishes too. It's only my opinion. If Ming's stays and retains his place and performances from him improve* - then Kudos to Stevie G. * Not that I thought his performances were poor last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, WooJung said: There should be no guaranteed starters, that's the point of having a squad. Yes great in theory but we know Gerrard has a fair few guaranteed starters, in fact most managers do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, hippo said: But why do it in full glare of the national media and have it rumbling on all over summer ? Isn’t everything done publicly now. Ten Hag keeping Maguire United captain was all over the media. Mings being kept on as captain for would have been the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, WooJung said: There should be no guaranteed starters, that's the point of having a squad. Agreed. But also the point of the squad is to select your best 11. Remains to be seen if TM is seem (in Stevie s) opinion as one of the best 11 players at the club. My feeling is he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, hippo said: Would say to me that another club appreciate him more. Unless this other club were going to make him Captain, this makes no sense. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Interesting quite a few on here lean towards a Carlos / Chambers partnership… can’t have your captain on the bench. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) *Delete* Edited July 27, 2022 by Paulie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, nick76 said: Yes great in theory but we know Gerrard has a fair few guaranteed starters, in fact most managers do. Nothing wrong with having a couple of guaranteed starters IMO. Few clubs have squads of 25 equally good players, even if that might be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: Isn’t everything done publicly now. Ten Hag keeping Maguire United captain was all over the media. Mings being kept on as captain for would have been the same I disagree the NEW utd manager has kept faith with the existing captain. An existing villa manager sticking with the existing captain - wouldnt be news much beyond this forum. Edited July 27, 2022 by hippo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Paulie said: Interesting quite a few on here lean towards a Carlos / Chambers partnership… can’t have your captain on the bench. You can say that again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, hippo said: Agreed. But also the point of the squad is to select your best 11. Remains to be seen if TM is seem (in Stevie s) opinion as one of the best 11 players at the club. My feeling is he doesn't. And probably not in my personal best 11 either, it would probably be Carlos and one of him and Chambers. But he's done nothing wrong (as far as we know) and i see no reason to strip him of the captaincy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, VillaParkAvenue said: Nothing wrong with having a couple of guaranteed starters IMO. Few clubs have squads of 25 equally good players, even if that might be ideal. I don’t disagree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Unless this other club were going to make him Captain, this makes no sense. Lol Not really - it's a very public vote of no confidence in TM. He's brought in 2cbs now. I think the writing is on the wall for TM now. Be surprised if he starts v Bournemouth. All IMO of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Paulie said: Interesting quite a few on here lean towards a Carlos / Chambers partnership… can’t have your captain on the bench. Says who? Leaders will lead, on and off the pitch. Henderson isn't a guaranteed starter for Liverpool and that doesn't stop him from being captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, hippo said: I disagree the NEW utd manager has kept faith with the existing captain. An existing villa manager sticking with the existing captain - wouldnt be news much beyond this forum. Will Maguire still be captain next season? Who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, WooJung said: Says who? Leaders will lead, on and off the pitch. Henderson isn't a guaranteed starter for Liverpool and that doesn't stop him from being captain. And we must copy Liverpool at all costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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