villalad21 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, Sam-AVFC said: With anything in particular, or you just have to? Mings can be at fault for losing that header while others can still be to blame for poor covering. I disagree with the point that Mings doesn't deserve the harsh criticism he received after the game. What he did was criminal and fully deserve the criticism.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, TRO said: Jesus played to the comments his manager made at half time......he wanted that header more than Mings and he got it.....simple as. If that is the case then the mentality in our players isn't right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: If that is the case then the mentality in our players isn't right. Think it's more that Mings has a tendency to switch off at times and not be a 100% concentrated or a bit too casual. In the Championship you could get away with it. Against a team like City you can't afford to do this. He'll move on and learn. Better it happened away to City than against someone like Newcastle or Sheffield U 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, sne said: Think it's more that Mings has a tendency to switch off at times and not be a 100% concentrated or a bit too casual. In the Championship you could get away with it. Against a team like City you can't afford to do this. He'll move on and learn. Better it happened away to City than against someone like Newcastle or Sheffield U I'm starting to get really worried about him to be honest. According to Opta, no player in the Premier League has been guilty of more errors that have led to shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I'm starting to get really worried about him to be honest. According to Opta, no player in the Premier League has been guilty of more errors that have led to shots. Yeah it's mentioned in the article I posted. I just think we'll have to take the bad with the good. He has many good qualities. Hopefully Terry can help him hammer out the chinks in his armor. This particular bad trait was pretty visible last season in the Championship I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only one worried it would get punished in the PL. For where we are he's still a very good CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) He's played less than 30 games at this level as a CB. I'm sure he'll iron out these mistakes he's been making. If he keeps making blocks like he did against Jesus he's allowed the odd clanger. Edited October 28, 2019 by AV82 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newry_Villan Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Flashbacks of Guzan and Nathan Dyer came flooding back when they scored their first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, villalad21 said: If that is the case then the mentality in our players isn't right. That's just my opinion of course FWIW......but I emphasise.....some of them not all of them. He then went on to redeem himself, with a couple of timely and customary recoveries. I think the point I was trying to make is, despite all the great performances and superlative play from Man City over the last few years....Pepe was aware enough to mention Aggression as a missing component from their game, in the first half...quite poignant IMO My further point is, despite the most grateful improvement in our play since Dean has arrived....maybe we too would be well positioned to appraise our aggression level during a game.....and possibly work on it, (if the coach feels that it is an issue), like I do. I am not suggesting for one moment, that ALL our players are lacking, just some. Edited October 28, 2019 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post terrytini Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 Maybe being under constant pressure, as a result of being a newly promoted side, means there will be some mistakes, and some lapses in concentration. Maybe these are even more likely against one of the top teams in the world. Maybe his attitude, aggression levels, and all the rest are good, rather than excellent. Maybe some expect to much. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post romavillan Posted October 28, 2019 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 33 minutes ago, terrytini said: Maybe being under constant pressure, as a result of being a newly promoted side, means there will be some mistakes, and some lapses in concentration. Maybe these are even more likely against one of the top teams in the world. Maybe his attitude, aggression levels, and all the rest are good, rather than excellent. Maybe some expect to much. He's fluffed a header, then done a miraculous goal line clearance off his thigh to make up for it. Overall he was good against one of the best attacking sides in the world. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KentVillan Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 hours ago, villalad21 said: I'm starting to get really worried about him to be honest. According to Opta, no player in the Premier League has been guilty of more errors that have led to shots. If memory serves me right, quite a few of those "errors" have been "forced errors" while he's trying to deal with a problem in the box. The one against Man City was fairly poor, but I don't recall him doing anything else similar to that. There's an awful lot of opinions of our players being revised this week after an away trip to the Etihad. It was this same match-by-match short-termist panic stations that fuelled a lot of the "Smith Out" nonsense last season, and I can see a lot of the same panicky flappers coming out with the same sort of analysis this season. Just calm down, remember it's a marathon not a sprint, and remember that players sometimes take a while to find their feet in a new league. We're currently doing well enough to avoid relegation. If things start to click and we go up another level (as I expect us to - Grealish's fitness allowing) then we could even make a late push into mid-table, which would be a superb first season back in the league. But we will lose plenty of games in the process, and players will have off days. It was only a few weeks ago when people were saying Grealish should be dropped, and Mings was our only player performing. Perhaps players just have good days and bad days? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Kind of worried against Liverpool. Done too many mistakes now that i don't think i trust him anymore. The thing is, he can look like a solid Premier League for 85 minutes but suddenly he just lose his concentration and does something incredibly stupid which cost us the game. Did wonders last season, but i don't believe we should view him as undroppable because of 1 good season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 12 hours ago, villalad21 said: Kind of worried against Liverpool. Done too many mistakes now that i don't think i trust him anymore. The thing is, he can look like a solid Premier League for 85 minutes but suddenly he just lose his concentration and does something incredibly stupid which cost us the game. Did wonders last season, but i don't believe we should view him as undroppable because of 1 good season. Nah totally undroppable for me, re-watched the Everton game last night f********* awesome display, we are fortunate to have him. I don't think there is a team in this league that wouldn't take him he's that good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted November 2, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2019 16 hours ago, villalad21 said: Kind of worried against Liverpool. Done too many mistakes now that i don't think i trust him anymore. The thing is, he can look like a solid Premier League for 85 minutes but suddenly he just lose his concentration and does something incredibly stupid which cost us the game. Did wonders last season, but i don't believe we should view him as undroppable because of 1 good season. He's our best central defender at the moment, why would you not play him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, romavillan said: He's our best central defender at the moment, why would you not play him? Done too many costly mistakes so far. It's why i'm starting to not trust him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: Done too many costly mistakes so far. It's why i'm starting to not trust him. The 6 posts on one page make me suspect you’re not impressed with Mings? I personally think he is our best defender and our captain without the armband, Yes he has made mistakes but he has more than made up for it with all the good stuff he has done for us. Defending that lead to an England cap. Agree he needs to cut out some of the mistakes but no way can he be seen as a concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: The 6 posts on one page make me suspect you’re not impressed with Mings? I'm not, not so far. No other players have been frustrating me as much as Mings this season. Maybe it's just me, but when he time and time again lose concentration and get casual on the ball really get's on my nerves. He seem to just hoof the ball away when he got time on the ball. When he is under pressure that's when he tend to either dribble his way out or play the risky short passes. Edited November 2, 2019 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Anyone else getting tired of the hugging, kissing and general groping of teammates after every break in play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: Anyone else getting tired of the hugging, kissing and general groping of teammates after every break in play. Nope and I think the lady doth protest too much. Edited November 2, 2019 by lexicon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted November 2, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2019 52 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: Anyone else getting tired of the hugging, kissing and general groping of teammates after every break in play. Shows good team spirit and camaraderie which we have lacked in the past. Mings was very good today and composed. Some great blocks and defensive work. I don’t think we deserved to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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