Spoony Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 On the fence about the figures being quoted. Don’t want to be too blinded by what he achieved for us but in a world where a really good CB costs £50-75m, £20m is probably fair as it’s not as if he’s in a totally different world to the likes of Laporte and van Dijk. He’s obviously not quite that level but he does the job and does it well. That costs money. I’d rather £20m on him than wasting less on some “potentially good” signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaVilla Posted June 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Spoony said: On the fence about the figures being quoted. Don’t want to be too blinded by what he achieved for us but in a world where a really good CB costs £50-75m, £20m is probably fair as it’s not as if he’s in a totally different world to the likes of Laporte and van Dijk. He’s obviously not quite that level but he does the job and does it well. That costs money. I’d rather £20m on him than wasting less on some “potentially good” signings. As much as his possible talent etc I think his personality would be excellent for our club /team. He had a tough childhood and is a real grafter, fights for the club and appears to have high standards and I think would be good for the culture of the club and helping to mould the young players and ensure they don't turn in to pre Madonnas. I just think as well as being a good player, he's exactly the type of personality we need around the club, also don't forget he does charity work etc. Just my opinion though. Edited June 14, 2019 by MaVilla 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Mings is a bargain even at £20m IMO. Especially when you consider that we've just spent £22m+ on a relatively unknow striker from the Belgian league. Just hurry up and get this done Villa!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) Too much for purely him as a player. Smith has to decide if he brings other things that are worth having. Also Tyrone can speed this up if he really wants to by handing in a transfer request. If they're holding on for that much he shouldn't assume we don't have other targets. Edited June 14, 2019 by Tomaszk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted June 14, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 14, 2019 If we're paying north of £15m then we would need to be really sure he is over his injury woes, since he spent the best part of 4 years with bad injuries. It's harsh, but if he can't satisfy the medical team that he is top condition for years to come then we should walk away for this level of fee. The last 6 months were obviously a good indicator he is over his issues, but I'm sure a medical involves scans and estimating probability of occurrence etc which gives you a clearer picture. Hope it all works out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 55 minutes ago, El-Reacho said: It seems that we have to make a decision to pay full whack for him now or else wait it out and try and get him for much less as the summer goes on. Bournemouth are probably desperate for someone else to join the bidding - as the longer it goes on the more likely that they'll have to sell to us at a bargain price. They are not forced to sell him. If no one makes an offer they consider worthy they can always hold onto him and play him in their side. There is no rush from the Bournemouth point of view. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: 15m we should be paying no more than that Might be 15m straight + bonuses, or 13/14 + extras. My friend's dad was once high up in club, info is solid, he told me about Elphick a week in advance. Edited June 14, 2019 by avfcDJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 5 hours ago, Demitri_C said: 15m we should be paying no more than that I appreciate there will be an absolute maximum Villa will pay for any player, but are you saying Villa should not sign Mings for £16m? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, brommy said: I appreciate there will be an absolute maximum Villa will pay for any player, but are you saying Villa should not sign Mings for £16m? I’m with you. I know it’s all opinions but don’t understand how fans determine value around the edges. Whether we pay 15m or 20m can only be determined good or bad in hindsight at the end of his time here. I agree if it’s 15m vs 50m for a player but I’d like to understand why fans when looking at a player have definitive values in mind especially in a market that over the last 30 years has inflation that is incredible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 All this stress and basically it boils down to the lad still being on holiday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted June 14, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 14, 2019 7 hours ago, MaVilla said: mould the young players and ensure they don't turn in to pre Madonnas. Yeah, a young player would instantly become at least 60 years old if they were pre Madonna, and that'd be shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 There is absolutely no way on earth that the hold up is simply down to Tyrone being on holiday.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Tyrone is still liking (as recently as an hour ago) some AVFC related content from his Twitter account. Has to be a good sign, surely? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 27 minutes ago, StanBalaban said: Tyrone is still liking (as recently as an hour ago) some AVFC related content from his Twitter account. Has to be a good sign, surely? Then tell him to bloody sign!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 3 hours ago, av1 said: There is absolutely no way on earth that the hold up is simply down to Tyrone being on holiday.. Why ? seems perfectly feasible to me. He was playing until almost june - will report back for pre season early july. Perhaps he doesnt want to spend his holiday discussing the deal He has an agent - who may well have phoned him " its all sorted - just sign the forms when you get back" ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 6 hours ago, nick76 said: I’m with you. I know it’s all opinions but don’t understand how fans determine value around the edges. Whether we pay 15m or 20m can only be determined good or bad in hindsight at the end of his time here. I agree if it’s 15m vs 50m for a player but I’d like to understand why fans when looking at a player have definitive values in mind especially in a market that over the last 30 years has inflation that is incredible. As fans, we have no idea what the budgets are, so I really don’t see the point in saying a player is worth £xm but not £x+1m. The club will obviously have their maximum for each player they are interested in but they have the full facts regarding what the budgets are and what the value a player can bring is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Villa fan posted a picture with him on Twitter earlier after bumping into him on his holiday. The fan said he asked him if he was going to sign and Tyrone said 'im trying'. Assuming it's true doesn't sound as though hes just waiting to get back to sign the papers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 I like Mings a lot but if it doesn’t happen it’s not the end of the world. Lots of players out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I like Mings a lot but if it doesn’t happen it’s not the end of the world. Lots of players out there. I know prices have gone mad but don't think he's a £20m player. Bournemouth would have sold him to us for £8m in January. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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