Vive_La_Villa Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 42 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: I'd rather have seen Dendonker as the switch for Kamara tbh. We never really took control of the midfield having JJ, Bailey and Diaby on the pitch at the same time. Donk struggles with a low block against the Bosnian champions. You really think he would have helped today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: Donk struggles with a low block against the Bosnian champions. You really think he would have helped today? I think it would've helped McGinn and Luiz play a bit higher. Instead of job sharing Kamaras role. I felt having runners like JJ, Diaby and Bailey tonight would restrict us as they would never get the space, especially through the middle to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) . Edited December 22, 2023 by avfc1982am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, avfc1982am said: I think it would've helped McGinn and Luiz play a bit higher. Instead of job sharing Kamaras role. I felt having runners like JJ, Diaby and Bailey tonight would restrict us as they would never get the space, especially through the middle to play. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Donk struggles with a low block against the Bosnian champions. You really think he would have helped today? If Dendoncker can’t get a game when the only other player in his specialist position is suspended then you have to ask why we’ve kept him at all for this long. It’s obvious he doesn’t fit Emery’s system at all. We should have pushed him harder out of the door in the summer and brought someone else in who has some use within the squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Ramsey was poor tonight, but perhaps a bit harsh to expect him to do too much too quickly after returning from such a long time out with injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, david-avfc said: If Dendoncker can’t get a game when the only other player in his specialist position is suspended then you have to ask why we’ve kept him at all for this long. It’s obvious he doesn’t fit Emery’s system at all. We should have pushed him harder out of the door in the summer and brought someone else in who has some use within the squad Couldn’t agree more and quite disappointed we didn’t. I can only assume we tried but couldn't move him on so couldn’t sign a replacement. Others will you Emery wanted to keep him though. When a players main reason for signing is money you ain’t moving them easily. Just look at United. Anyway back on topic, I saw signs of the old Ramsey today. Edited December 23, 2023 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Poor again tonight. He's obviously very, very rusty still. Hopefully Tielemans is fit for Man U so we can introduce JJ a bit more gradually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 23, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 23, 2023 He was crap but anyone blaming him for the goal being ruled out needs to have a word with themselves. It’s one of the worst VAR decisions I’ve seen. That’s not on JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, Stevo985 said: He was crap but anyone blaming him for the goal being ruled out needs to have a word with themselves. It’s one of the worst VAR decisions I’ve seen. That’s not on JJ Yeah you take the screenshot from the VAR call and there's about 8 fouls on it There is more of a foul being made on Ramsey than Ramsey is making on the keeper But we all know keepers are protected And that's before you go in to an argument about phases of play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Ramsey needs to be dropped. We all love him and know how high his potential is but he needs to feel the pain to redouble and refocus his efforts. Zaniolo has been through that journey and deserves a start now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: He was crap but anyone blaming him for the goal being ruled out needs to have a word with themselves. It’s one of the worst VAR decisions I’ve seen. That’s not on JJ Having seen it I thought it was fair enough. He's preventing the keeper from moving properly ny holding on to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 23, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Risso said: Having seen it I thought it was fair enough. He's preventing the keeper from moving properly ny holding on to him. He’s barely touching him. Whilst having his own shirt pulled. When earlier in the game a two handed push in the back on Watkins was waved away. It’s an awful decision, even before you get to the fact the phase of play had ended so VAR had no right to rule it out anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I thought it was a foul because he pins the keepers right arm. However VAR shouldn't be going back to a different phase of play when Sheff Utd had chance to clear and the keeper was back in position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 hour ago, DakotaVilla said: Ramsey needs to be dropped. We all love him and know how high his potential is but he needs to feel the pain to redouble and refocus his efforts. Zaniolo has been through that journey and deserves a start now. I would have said that Sheff Utd at home was a totally logical choice to get 90 mins into a player returning from injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, villan95 said: I thought it was a foul because he pins the keepers right arm. However VAR shouldn't be going back to a different phase of play when Sheff Utd had chance to clear and the keeper was back in position. I don't even think it matters what he was doing to keeper. If they were reviewing that incident they should have seen his shirt being pulled off his back and given a penalty It shouldn't even have got to 'phases of play' because it's just a clear foul on our player before he even engages with the keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, villan95 said: I thought it was a foul because he pins the keepers right arm. However VAR shouldn't be going back to a different phase of play when Sheff Utd had chance to clear and the keeper was back in position. Yes it wasn,t that it was not a foul.It's just a new phase of play now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, May-Z said: I don't even think it matters what he was doing to keeper. If they were reviewing that incident they should have seen his shirt being pulled off his back and given a penalty It shouldn't even have got to 'phases of play' because it's just a clear foul on our player before he even engages with the keeper. It seems to be different rules for contact on goalkeepers. I think we're all in agreement that we got screwed over though. Edited December 23, 2023 by villan95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 23, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, villan95 said: I thought it was a foul because he pins the keepers right arm. However VAR shouldn't be going back to a different phase of play when Sheff Utd had chance to clear and the keeper was back in position. He didn’t pin it though. For about a frame or two he had his arm on the keeper’s arm. Foderingham is an awful keeper and his dreadful attempt at clearing the ball is getting excused because of this fake foul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, villan95 said: It seems to be different rules for contact on goalkeepers. I think we're all in agreement that we got screwed over though. Oh definitely. Keepers always get this type of stuff. Ordinarily, I'd be annoyed at Ramsey because he's stopped us scoring by not being cute enough a couple of times now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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