VillaChris Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 On 14/12/2018 at 11:15, TRO said: Neale Cooper, Expected big things from him at the time....plagued by injuries probably had the main impact. Didn't he die recently? Think he had Alcohol issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 13 hours ago, VillaChris said: JPA was just massively hyped from the time he signed (pound protests). Was a good striker no doubt and brilliant in 03/04 but Yorke, Dublin and Benteke were more effective forwards for us in the last twenty years. Angel would be in the Gabby, Vassell, Joachim,Savo, Carew category of being excellent for a time and then a run of poor form crops up. He was pretty exceptional at River so came with that hype. I actually thought he was very good in 2001-2002, scored some lovely goals and looked really sharp on the ball, excellent in 2003-2004 but generally poor outside of those seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I have no doubts what so ever he would have become a club legend had he not had his leg broken. One of my all time favorite players and one of the saddest moments in following Villa for me. Oh what could have been... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, sne said: I have no doubts what so ever he would have become a club legend had he not had his leg broken. One of my all time favorite players and one of the saddest moments in following Villa for me. Oh what could have been... Incredible talent. No wonder Van Nistelrooy and Ronaldo rate him among the best they've ever played with. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Incredible talent. No wonder Van Nistelrooy and Ronaldo rate him among the best they've ever played with. He was like a mix between the best attributes from Marco van Basten and Matthew Le Tissier. Amazing player. Edit: Obviously not saying he was as good as van Basten. Edited December 16, 2018 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 04/12/2018 at 21:58, Keyblade said: Jordan Veretout - Ditto. Went on to fulfill his promise and is apparently in line for a France call-up. This really doesn't surprise me, I always thought he looked a good player at Villa, even though everyone disagreed with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 17, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 17, 2018 It's funny. My view of JPA is massively skewed. His best seasons for us were during the only short spell in the last 25 years where I didn't really follow Villa. I mean I did follow them. i still watched some games and followed results, but it wasn't like it is now or was before then. I was 17-18, massively into rugby an other activities that come with being that age and football didn't mean as much for a short while. So when i think of Angel I never remember him as fondly as most Villa fans. And I always have to remind myself that that's more my fault than his! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) Carlos Cuellar.. Pure crap shocking we paid nearly 8mil for him. I know lot fans rate him but I saw nothing other than an average defender that we massively overpaid for. Edited December 17, 2018 by Villan4Life 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Villan4Life said: Carlos Cuellar.. Pure crap shocking we paid nearly 8mil for him. I know lot fans rate him but I saw nothing other than an average defender that we massively overpaid for. I was excited when we signed him as he looked pretty decent but you're right, didn't quite do it down here for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, AvfcRigo82 said: I was excited when we signed him as he looked pretty decent but you're right, didn't quite do it down here for us. to be honest mate i was excited too as Rangers fans was saying he was best thing sliced bread. I had never watched that league much until 2 years ago Very, very disappointed. I rated Van Djik at Groningen and mentioned him on here before he went to Celtic just before we signed Bacuna from same club. Alas if only we went for someone like that who really did stand out in Scotland when the very average Cuellar had a decent season in the UEFA Cup didn't Rangers get to Final and hence why his price tag was so big! I didn't watch any of them games before we signed him but was mega excited. Man he was so so poor Let's be honest he was awful for money we paid lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Always thought Cuellar was shit, probably a nice guy but one of the worst Spanish footballers to grace the Premier League regarding technique until we outdid him by signing Luna. He did have a good campaign with Rangers but they were a negative team and defended a lot, think he was partnered with 60 year old David Weir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Cuellar was alright at centre half most of the time I thought. He was bloody shifted out to RB for most of his time here. He was not good there at all. MON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 16/12/2018 at 09:53, Dr_Pangloss said: He was pretty exceptional at River so came with that hype. I actually thought he was very good in 2001-2002, scored some lovely goals and looked really sharp on the ball, excellent in 2003-2004 but generally poor outside of those seasons. I remember being at VP seeing him score a ridiculous goal against Chelsea in the league cup that 2003/04 season. Think that was the same cup run he scored from near the corner flag against Bolton as well (although i was always sure that was an attempted cross). Didn't he blow out his knee the following pre-season and was never quite the same again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Cuellar was alright at centre half most of the time I thought. He was bloody shifted out to RB for most of his time here. He was not good there at all. MON Eck liked a good throwback to the MON era too. Who could forget Carlos Cuellar teaming up with Alan Hutton on the right to stop Gareth Bale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted December 18, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2018 On 15/12/2018 at 04:58, Villan4Life said: Sasa Curcic anyone? Watched his debut from the North Stand and he ran himself ragged. He had a great game and I thought "we have a player on our hands here." He never had another good game that I can remember. All I ever heard when I went down VP after that was that people had seen him doing coke with Collymore in various different locations. (allegedly) Maybe a case of getting the big move, the big money and falling into the trap of thinking he'd made it and failing to knuckle down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) Jesus... Was I the only one who liked Cuellar? I still rate him as the best CB we've had since Laursen. Edited December 18, 2018 by KMitch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, KMitch said: Jesus... Was I the only one who liked Cuellar? I still rate him as the best CB we've had since Laursen. You need to get to a few more matches then ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 18, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, KMitch said: Jesus... Was I the only one who liked Cuellar? I still rate him as the best CB we've had since Laursen. I liked him. But he wasn't very good. He was very expensive (at the time) which probably means people look on him less favourably. There is no chance he's the best cb since Laursen, imo. Even at his peak for us I'd put him behind our two current CBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Quite easily Scott Hogan - Big Fee - Doesn't score goals - can scarcely control the ball - Behind on Babalan IMO. Sure there have been loads of other dross signed for smaller fees - who have totally bombed - but on a ratio of fee's paid / impact Hogan is right up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 3 hours ago, TheAuthority said: Watched his debut from the North Stand and he ran himself ragged. He had a great game and I thought "we have a player on our hands here." He never had another good game that I can remember. All I ever heard when I went down VP after that was that people had seen him doing coke with Collymore in various different locations. (allegedly) Maybe a case of getting the big move, the big money and falling into the trap of thinking he'd made it and failing to knuckle down. He was just mad, his Wikipedia backs that up. Retired at 28 and seems to be a professional reality tv star in Serbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts