A'Villan Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, Dave J said: Would you not agree - that all of these names mentioned are now considered yesterday's men? A degree of success what does this really equate to though ? You can't put this in a trophy cabinet can you - sorry don't mean that in a flippant way - but no one will remember this. Yes I can see this deserved some acknowledgment but it only goes so far. As for Moyes - his pal Fergie got him that gig. Look at his record since and you must acknowledge that Utd have looked the other way for managers since then. For me they are ordinary managers plying their trade - which I give them credit for - but to me they are average no more or less. Fair enough. Everyone sees it through their own lens. If by yesterdays men you mean their best is behind them, then yes, you're probably right. If you're point is we would be better off looking for other managers for our future then I would agree wholeheartedly. We haven't been top half of the Premier League for the better half of a decade. All these managers have operated at a level on par with our standing during that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 19 minutes ago, briny_ear said: Wouldn’t it be great if we had a thread about Dean Smith, who I understand has been our manager for some months now? I do understand though that people will want to discuss Steve Bruce for many many years to come to the exclusion of all else. I'd probably prefer to engage discussions about Smith than I would Bruce too. However unfortunate it may be, Bruce is still relevant to some degree and will be 'til this seasons end as far as I'm concerned. At least. He achieved 83 points and a play off final which is better than the Champions League winning RDM was on course to do, same goes for Smith's record as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 31, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2019 12 hours ago, LakotaDakota said: That is quite possibly one of the stupidest things i have ever read on here and there is plenty to choose from I read this and lol'd Then I looked at who you were quoting and it all made sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Seems to be doing the right thing with the u23s, sourcing out loans to play competitive football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 interesting in the press conference that he said Mings came with good character references so it sounds like a lot of research is going into signings now and we are looking at people that wont be "wastemen" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I could see us taking the league by storm if we signed Fer and had Grealish return for the remainder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, A'Villan said: I could see us taking the league by storm if we signed Fer and had Grealish return for the remainder. I can see us taking the league by storm if we sign Abraham and McGinn. Oh hang on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, A'Villan said: I could see us taking the league by storm if we signed Fer and had Grealish return for the remainder. Unfortunately, Hutton and Taylor are still our starting fullbacks... Because of this, I think we'll struggle to make the playoffs without some luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Just now, KMitch said: Unfortunately, Hutton and Taylor are still our starting fullbacks... Because of this, I think we'll struggle to make the playoffs without some luck. Every side has it's weaknesses that can be exploited. Hutton does a pretty good job of getting forward at this level. As does Elmo. If your concern with them as full backs is from a defensive perspective than I understand and agree. The wall passes that led to the Ipswich goal are a good example of how we can be beaten down the flank. I also think you're bang on about luck playing a role. I'm not sure we've had a whole lot under Smith so far. Not trying to excuse the evident issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I applaud him for finally sending guys out on loan to get some game time. It is the best interests of the player and the club, despite with Steve Bruce would have you believe. Keeping them around "just incase" is just pure self interest and protecting yourself and not benefitting this club. 11 January 2019 CF Rushian Hepburn-Murphy Cambridge United 31 May 2019 [54] 29 January 2019 CM Callum O'Hare Carlisle United 31 May 2019 [55] 31 January 2019 CM Corey Blackett-Taylor Walsall 31 May 2019 [56] 31 January 2019 RB James Bree Ipswich Town 31 May 2019 [57] 31 January 2019 CM Jake Doyle-Hayes Cambridge United 31 May 2019 [58] 31 January 2019 CF Harry McKirdy Newport County 31 May 2019 [60] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Next season terrifies me. Losing Abraham and Grealish is pretty much a guarantee. I can see multiple clubs in for McGinn too. Who knows if we will get Axel and El Ghazi. Huge core of our team ripped away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 44 minutes ago, Czechlad said: Next season terrifies me. Losing Abraham and Grealish is pretty much a guarantee. I can see multiple clubs in for McGinn too. Who knows if we will get Axel and El Ghazi. Huge core of our team ripped away. Thankfully that's anxiety speaking and it's not the reality. Not having a stab at you. I just think there's still a lot to play for and I still have some excitement for the here and now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 58 minutes ago, Czechlad said: Next season terrifies me. Losing Abraham and Grealish is pretty much a guarantee. I can see multiple clubs in for McGinn too. Who knows if we will get Axel and El Ghazi. Huge core of our team ripped away. Dunno - Mcginn is under contract and has plenty of years left on his contract - its going take a £20m+ bid to shift him. Agree with the other departures - but the jan window is always tough - and we seem to have made some very good moves - hopefully these players can tighten up the defence - which is my biggest concern. Smith always manages to get his team scoring goals - its keepin em that needs solving... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Kalinic Hutton - Elphick/Chester - Mings - Taylor Carroll McGinn - Grealish El Ghazi - Tammy - Adomah/Green So, are we better than at the start of January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted February 1, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Farlz said: Kalinic Hutton - Elphick/Chester - Mings - Taylor Carroll McGinn - Grealish El Ghazi - Tammy - Adomah/Green So, are we better than at the start of January? Because I think we’ve improved the keeper (by how much remains to be seen), I’d say yes. Annoyed that the full back positions for the remainder of the season don’t look like they’ve been solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Anyone think Dean Smith is signing players for a different formation or line of tactics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Farlz said: Kalinic Hutton - Elphick/Chester - Mings - Taylor Carroll McGinn - Grealish El Ghazi - Tammy - Adomah/Green So, are we better than at the start of January? We are but the main factor is Grealish not new signings. Full backs still scare me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Not signing a left back seems to be a glaring error, but I'd imagine that has nothing to do with Smith, all he does is make recommendations, he's ultimately not responsible for any deals actually going through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Tommo_b said: Anyone think Dean Smith is signing players for a different formation or line of tactics? Well he has signed two CB'S - that to me doesn't suggest a change of formation is imminent - Id expect Mings to either replace Chester or Elphick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Not signing a left back seems to be a glaring error, but I'd imagine that has nothing to do with Smith, all he does is make recommendations, he's ultimately not responsible for any deals actually going through. This is what it seems alot of people don't realise and it irks me. I've seen some "This is where we miss Bruce" comments on the likes of Facebook. lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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