Dean Smith

[PaulC]

2 hours ago, gwi1890 said:

Or even the England first team 

I know you are joking but that's never going to happen. Whatever people think of Southgate he's been there done it as a player smith hasn't.

[gwi1890]

23 minutes ago, PaulC said:

I know you are joking but that's never going to happen. Whatever people think of Southgate he's been there done it as a player smith hasn't.

Means nothing really Steven Gerrard , Frank Lampard,  Roy Keane all been and done it as players,  Jose Mourinho , Unai Emery , Jurgen Klopp played a similar level to Smith. 

[jim]

2 hours ago, Pinebro said:

Deano managing England would be a great idea.

To Scotland fans, yes.

[foreveryoung]

Smith could be decent, he just keeps taking shit jobs, cause he loves the high life and the £££££££.

[gwi1890]

24 minutes ago, jim said:

To Scotland fans, yes.

Southgate managing England already is good for Scotland fans

[Keyblade]

58 minutes ago, foreveryoung said:

Smith could be decent, he just keeps taking shit jobs, cause he loves the high life and the £££££££.

Yeah they don't call Norwich the Milan of the South East for nothing!

[Demitri_C]

3 hours ago, Pinebro said:

Deano managing England would be a great idea.

No thanks i dont want the shitty english media destroy in the papers when things dont go englands way

Deano might nit be a great manger but he is a top bloke and one of us.  England job is hell

[jim]

3 hours ago, gwi1890 said:

Southgate managing England already is good for Scotland fans

Yeah must be laughing their asses off at a Semi [insert Kenneth] and a final!

[gwi1890]

12 minutes ago, jim said:

Yeah must be laughing their asses off at a Semi [insert Kenneth] and a final!

A team of Englands quality should be winning it, the pool of players England have to chose from is massive, they don’t have to scour the lower leagues for players like Wales, Scotland, Ireland, and Northern Ireland . It’s a bit like Man City reaching a Champions League final and boasting that they did well to get there.  Wales and Scotland even qualifying for major tournaments is a huge achievement given they players they have to chose from . England on paper with the quality they have to chose from is the Man City of International football but unfortunately they’re a bit Spursy they always come up short and until they win a major tournament will remain the butt of all jokes

[PaulC]

4 hours ago, gwi1890 said:

Means nothing really Steven Gerrard , Frank Lampard,  Roy Keane all been and done it as players,  Jose Mourinho , Unai Emery , Jurgen Klopp played a similar level to Smith. 

Talking about managing the England team. The only ones with success have  been england players . 

[fightoffyour]

48 minutes ago, jim said:

Yeah must be laughing their asses off at a Semi [insert Kenneth] and a final!

So England achieved as much as Scotland then. **** all.

[Zatman]

1 minute ago, fightoffyour said:

So England achieved as much as Scotland then. **** all.

slightly better than Wales best achievements in recent times

[VillaChris]

10 hours ago, MaVilla said:

isnt ROK retired though?

He's gone back in to help out Walsall for last few games but basically yes unless he's refused to join up with DS again due to the way he was demoted here. Who knows.

[VillaChris]

4 hours ago, foreveryoung said:

Smith could be decent, he just keeps taking shit jobs, cause he loves the high life and the £££££££.

Norwich was a way lower salary than what he had here. Not sure what he's on at Leicester but probably less than Rodgers with a competitive staying up bonus.

He's hardly just taking jobs to get a decent pay off a year later like Steve Bruce became master of in last decade of management.

[VillaChris]

41 minutes ago, gwi1890 said:

A team of Englands quality should be winning it, the pool of players England have to chose from is massive, they don’t have to scour the lower leagues for players like Wales, Scotland, Ireland, and Northern Ireland . It’s a bit like Man City reaching a Champions League final and boasting that they did well to get there.  Wales and Scotland even qualifying for major tournaments is a huge achievement given they players they have to chose from . England on paper with the quality they have to chose from is the Man City of International football but unfortunately they’re a bit Spursy they always come up short and until they win a major tournament will remain the butt of all jokes

Why chose DS then when Eddie Howe will be available in a few years. He'd probably have a couple of years of CL on his CV by then aswell.

If it's Gerrard, Lampard and DS as the three options you take Smith all day long as he can actually coach on a training pitch. However I think if England have a vacancy around summer 2024 they'll have a decent set of candidates to approach as Potter will be back in management by then and will probably be doing o.k at side with much less pressure and some semblance of strategy than what he had at Chelsea.

[tomav84]

4 hours ago, foreveryoung said:

Smith could be decent, he just keeps taking shit jobs, cause he loves the high life and the £££££££.

so if we're saying a team near the bottom of the PL is a 'shit job' what exactly would be a 'good job' that smith could realistically get?

you expect him to sit around with his feet up waiting for someone like wolves, palace or fulham to sack their managers and maybe consider him (but probably wont)?

you've mentioned smith earning good money a few times recently...news flash...PL footbal managers earn lots of money. it can't be a shock to you

[gwi1890]

1 hour ago, PaulC said:

Talking about managing the England team. The only ones with success have  been england players . 

And unsuccessful at international level whilst playing……

[gwi1890]

1 hour ago, VillaChris said:

Why chose DS then when Eddie Howe will be available in a few years. He'd probably have a couple of years of CL on his CV by then aswell.

If it's Gerrard, Lampard and DS as the three options you take Smith all day long as he can actually coach on a training pitch. However I think if England have a vacancy around summer 2024 they'll have a decent set of candidates to approach as Potter will be back in management by then and will probably be doing o.k at side with much less pressure and some semblance of strategy than what he had at Chelsea.

Why does the manager have to be English? Yes Sven and Capello didn’t do well but that’s years ago, the majority of players at club level are coached by foreigners . The pool of English players to choose from is second to none but the pool of English managers to choose from is of a low standard and very limited.

[VillaChris]

37 minutes ago, gwi1890 said:

Why does the manager have to be English? Yes Sven and Capello didn’t do well but that’s years ago, the majority of players at club level are coached by foreigners . The pool of English players to choose from is second to none but the pool of English managers to choose from is of a low standard and very limited.

They don't have to be English but I'd always prefer to see that if the current pool is decent and would be silly to ignore Howe if he's out of work when he's re-established his reputation at Newcastle pretty emphatically. 

The coaching talent pool was really bad in early 2000s so wasn't a shock FA went foreign then. McClaren, Big Sam, Curbishley in mid 2000s was a bit of a laughable selection aswell, O'Neill probably should've got the job then as he was interviewed aswell but probably sent FA to sleep talking about his Clough anecdotes.

Steve Cooper could be outside bet aswell as he's previously been in FA coaching set up and did well with under 20s I think.

[duke313]

16 hours ago, PaulC said:

I know you are joking but that's never going to happen. Whatever people think of Southgate he's been there done it as a player smith hasn't.

Guess you can rule Potter and Howe out from ever managing England then.