sharkyvilla Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 The next manager thread isn't really making a convincing argument in favour of making a change imo. If we go 4-3-3 I think we will pick up points in 2 of the next 3 games and we will settle down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Today’s line up looked like a direct response to fans rather than Deano‘s choice in my opinion. Sort of like “this is what you’ve asked for”. Players aren’t happy clearly, something’s gotta give sooner or later. I don’t see how he gets us out of this, in the sense of our season is going to be below the standard expected and we won’t meet expectations. I think whether he goes now or goes in the summer, it’s kinda inevitable if we are going to stagnate. NSWE won’t have it and rightly so. We need to progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, samjp26 said: Today’s line up looked like a direct response to fans rather than Deano‘s choice in my opinion. Sort of like “this is what you’ve asked for”. Players aren’t happy clearly, something’s gotta give sooner or later. I don’t see how he gets us out of this, in the sense of our season is going to be below the standard expected and we won’t meet expectations. I think whether he goes now or goes in the summer, it’s kinda inevitable if we are going to stagnate. NSWE won’t have it and rightly so. We need to progress. I agree. But playing one of Ings or Ollie was forced on with injury. God knows what the team would be if Ings was fit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I think the loss of coaching staff is more significant than the loss of Jack. ROK was deemed not a modern coach - so was to be demoted ! Bear in mind the people who made that decision are recruiting our next head coach I can feel remi Garde 2 incoming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, Wurzel said: Leeds fan on BBC radio 5 slagging Villa fans off for wanting Smith out, and TBH he has a very big point. Here's your problem with that. Who on here gives a **** about leeds. Fair enough your still backing Smith but don't make out our own fans are delusional for expecting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: I have Southampton and Brighton as favorites in both games. They both have a clear system and are very aggressive. We have a good squad but playing like a team of individuals. He has to go if we lose both of those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted October 31, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Irrelevant and I don’t think he will. he had a sticky patch in the xmas period after he joined. he turned it around we were heading for the drop before covid. he turned it around. he's done it before, he'll do it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, hippo said: I think the loss of coaching staff is more significant than the loss of Jack. ROK was deemed not a modern coach - so was to be demoted ! Bear in mind the people who made that decision are recruiting our next head coach I can feel remi Garde 2 incoming. You just make that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: You just make that up? Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, tomav84 said: someone replied to john percy indicating that JT would be top of the list if smith went. percy replied along the lines of zero chance of that happening. that indicated a less than amicable split with JT so your theory/ITK info is totally believable IMO I found out he was told to go when it was found out he'd been advising cock face to leave. Sneaky prick was apparently told in no uncertain terms to pack up and get out. Kelly was also told he was being demoted, said no so was also told to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Do the home and away every week fans want him out? Not sure they do tbf . Football fans are fickle , so you’ll always get plenty that do want him out after a bad run . Money spent and the last few results haven’t been great. Not sure he’s got it in him to take us to the next level but happy to be proved wrong for a few more games. Nobody has wanted Smith out. However, my feeling is from speaking to many people in the ground is that his time is up. Edited October 31, 2021 by avfc1982am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: It wont be JT. The club told him to f*** off when they found out he was telling JG to leave. Hence the sudden departure. apparently Richard Kelly left because he was going to be demoted and refused to let that happen, so he and JT left suddenly and unplanned. edit you beat me to it Edited October 31, 2021 by VillanousOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 31, 2021 Moderator Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, tomav84 said: he had a sticky patch in the xmas period after he joined. he turned it around we were heading for the drop before covid. he turned it around. he's done it before, he'll do it again Not without Grealish he won’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, VillanousOne said: apparently Richard Kelly left because he was going to be demoted and refused to let that happen, so he and JT left suddenly and unplanned. see my previous post. Kelly was being primed for the 18's and wasn't interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Said we’d struggle for wins this season. Way way way too disjointed in many departments. That was clear as soon as the sale of Grealish was confirmed. There is no excuse for it now. The lack of pre-season is now null and void 10 games in. Not buying the injuries excuse either. This form is down to how the team are being managed AND the individual talents of our players. The recruitment over the summer was horrendous and it is really starting to show. I have no idea what on earth they thought they were trying to achieve. Huge struggle from here. Buckle up for a relegation dog fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, tomav84 said: he had a sticky patch in the xmas period after he joined. he turned it around we were heading for the drop before covid. he turned it around. he's done it before, he'll do it again Both times he had Grealish, and in the former case the turnaround started precisely when Grealish returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: see my previous post. Kelly was being primed for the 18's and wasn't interested yeah I read that also, both really put the boot into our preseason what was happening today with all the players out 'ill' did Smith say anything about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 25 minutes ago, Wurzel said: Leeds fan on BBC radio 5 slagging Villa fans off for wanting Smith out, and TBH he has a very big point. No, he really doesn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 This Smith out talk is a bit premature. His teams go through poor runs every season, but also have good runs to balance it out. Unless we get information that he has lost the support of the players then I don't think it's time to call for his head. It was only a month or so ago that the fan base was saying he was the best fit for us. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peter Griffin Posted October 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Made In Aston said: This Smith out talk is a bit premature. His teams go through poor runs every season That alone suggests talk of his departure is not premature 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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