Popular Post DJ_Villain Posted September 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: For how long? I'm interested as to what your personal cut off point is for recognising his ability. Dean Smith has overseen: - A ten in a row win streak - Playoff final victory and subsequent promotion - League Cup final - Survival and consolidation in the league - Won the FA Youth cup and has been the manager when we: - beat Liverpool 7-2 - beat Arsenal twice in one season - beat Chelsea and Spurs within a couple of weeks of eachother - Beat Man Utd at Old Trafford I’d say, from the shitshow that we were before he arrived, that Dean Smith has done fantastically and has proven his ability as a legit Premier League manager Edited September 27, 2021 by DJ_Villain Forgot the Man U result! 16 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Woody1000 said: That’s not really what I said though was it. What did u mean to say? You did say you 'hate this chip on shoulders that we get' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: What did u mean to say? You did say you 'hate this chip on shoulders that we get' He's talking about the apparent need for the media to recognise that Dean Smith is great etc. That it's unfair for, say, Potter to receive this praise when Smith isn't. We shouldn't have that chip because, ultimately, being a high profile manager (or player a la Grealish) means a likely move from Aston Villa to a "bigger club" (although I doubt this would be the case with Smith, but you never know). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 55 minutes ago, DJ_Villain said: Dean Smith has overseen: - A ten in a row win streak - Playoff final victory and subsequent promotion - League Cup final - Survival and consolidation in the league - Won the FA Youth cup and has been the manager when we: - beat Liverpool 7-2 - beat Arsenal twice in one season - beat Chelsea and Spurs within a couple of weeks of eachother - Beat Man Utd at Old Trafford I’d say, from the shitshow that we were before he arrived, that Dean Smith has done fantastically and has proven his ability as a legit Premier League manager If you’d told me that could be achieved within 3yrs when Smith first walked into the club I’d have advised you to seek medical help. I think we as fans sometimes forget too easily where we came from. It’s an absolutely remarkable upturn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 21 minutes ago, bobzy said: He's talking about the apparent need for the media to recognise that Dean Smith is great etc. That it's unfair for, say, Potter to receive this praise when Smith isn't. We shouldn't have that chip because, ultimately, being a high profile manager (or player a la Grealish) means a likely move from Aston Villa to a "bigger club" (although I doubt this would be the case with Smith, but you never know). As I said in my other response. I do not have a chip on my shoulder re DS and nor do I get one. I also suggested to look at the redcafe post match thread on Man Utd v Villa and it can be clearly seen that Man Utd fans attribute Smith with a lot of plaudits for the performance on Saturday. Also the media is extremely complementary about Smith and how Villa are doing. I don't subscribe to an inferiority complex with regard to Villa or Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrassyNoel Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: As I said in my other response. I do not have a chip on my shoulder re DS and nor do I get one. I also suggested to look at the redcafe post match thread on Man Utd v Villa and it can be clearly seen that Man Utd fans attribute Smith with a lot of plaudits for the performance on Saturday. Also the media is extremely complementary about Smith and how Villa are doing. I don't subscribe to an inferiority complex with regard to Villa or Smith Very true about RedCafe - very fair and decent comments re Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 47 minutes ago, DJ_Villain said: Dean Smith has overseen: - A ten in a row win streak - Playoff final victory and subsequent promotion - League Cup final - Survival and consolidation in the league - Won the FA Youth cup and has been the manager when we: - beat Liverpool 7-2 - beat Arsenal twice in one season - beat Chelsea and Spurs within a couple of weeks of eachother - Beat Man Utd at Old Trafford I’d say, from the shitshow that we were before he arrived, that Dean Smith has done fantastically and has proven his ability as a legit Premier League manager He also helped to develop a player that Villa sold for a British record of 100m. We need to be sustainable and to be able to make profit on player sales and bring in new ones and develop them too. This is a really important skill for a Head Coach to have 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2021 28 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: He also helped to develop a player that Villa sold for a British record of 100m. We need to be sustainable and to be able to make profit on player sales and bring in new ones and develop them too. This is a really important skill for a Head Coach to have Nah that was Pep Guardiola mate... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 30 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: He also helped to develop a player that Villa sold for a British record of 100m. We need to be sustainable and to be able to make profit on player sales and bring in new ones and develop them too. This is a really important skill for a Head Coach to have Deano chose his words well and on purpose, for me, that was a cheeky dig at the out going player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: Deano chose his words well and on purpose, for me, that was a cheeky dig at the out going player. Not going to lie, the lack of credit and respect/appreciation towards Deano et al in some of those initial interviews really rubbed me the wrong way. Edited September 27, 2021 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Not going to lie, the lack of credit and respect/appreciation towards Deano et al in some of those initial interviews really rubbed me the wrong way. Same here pal, the media have brainwashed plenty of suckers, even some of our own lap it up. All we can do is to work hard, make progress and shut mouths up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobsons Choice Posted September 27, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Peter Griffin said: As I said in my other response. I do not have a chip on my shoulder re DS and nor do I get one. I also suggested to look at the redcafe post match thread on Man Utd v Villa and it can be clearly seen that Man Utd fans attribute Smith with a lot of plaudits for the performance on Saturday. Also the media is extremely complementary about Smith and how Villa are doing. I don't subscribe to an inferiority complex with regard to Villa or Smith I do find some media outlets to be rather condescending in their praise though, when compared to the big 4. ’Oh look at little Aston Villa, aren’t they doing well!’ Some are ok and genuine, and I appreciate that they have to find an angle, but what DS has done is genuinely impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 If we keep playing exciting watchable football in the manner of the last few games I will be a very happy Villa supporter. Winning is good, winning with style is even better. Deano and the lads can make us really proud this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Personally I still wish that we appointed Thierry Henry instead of Smith. Just think of where we would be now with Thierry in charge. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Personally I still wish that we appointed Thierry Henry instead of Smith. Just think of where we would be now with Thierry in charge. Or what if we'd got that forward thinking FK Molde boss, OGS, back in the day. Could be where united are now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Personally I still wish that we appointed Thierry Henry instead of Smith. Just think of where we would be now with Thierry in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Personally I still wish that we appointed Thierry Henry instead of Smith. Just think of where we would be now with Thierry in charge. I wanted Henry as well, which is why, in the grand scheme of things, we are " Merde " for brains. lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I wanted Henry as well, which is why, in the grand scheme of things, we are " Merde " for brains. lol No joking apart though, I don't think he would have done as well as DS, but our image would have been boosted, go figure. DS all day every day for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 25/09/2021 at 14:35, Rightdm00 said: I will fight anyone that has anything negative to say about Deano. Man's a legend! you must have long arms? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post icouldtelltheworld Posted September 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2021 I like Smith, but unfortunately he... 1) can't organise a defence 2) is ideologically wedded to playing a 4-3-3 3) is incapable of having us play good football without Jack Grealish in the team Trollface.jpeg From where I'm sat he has continually improved us and himself ever since arriving and continues to answer every criticism put forward about him. Long may it continue 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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