villalad21 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I found it a bit odd of him to praise our 2nd half performance against Bournemouth but didn't mention we played against 10 men. Context is everything. Yeah we got a goal back and had more of the ball, but they were a man down and i can't remember their keeper having too many saves to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Tom13 said: While I agree with your first point, TAA isn't a great one-on-one defender at all, and Walker has many lapses in concentration. That was entirely my point. They don’t need to be good at that because the team wins the ball so high up the pitch. it’s far more valuable to have fullbacks that are good going forward and keep the ball high up the pitch, than those that can’t do any of that but are good defensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 3 hours ago, villalad21 said: I found it a bit odd of him to praise our 2nd half performance against Bournemouth but didn't mention we played against 10 men. Context is everything. Yeah we got a goal back and had more of the ball, but they were a man down and i can't remember their keeper having too many saves to make. He quite clearly did say it was because they had 10 men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Another game. Same issues. When you concede close to 2 goals per game you're not surviving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 More dropped points. Our defence is an absolute mess and just isn’t improving with or without Mings we are so open at the back. Sick of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I really can't stand this style of play. There has to be a middle ground. I have a heart attack every time the opponent got the ball. Bombing everyone forward. Playing at huge risk when we're in a relegation battle is f*** madness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 More composure from Luiz we win that game More composure from Engels and we draw it Without a MOTM performance from Reina we get absolutely battered Strange horrible game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2020 Just now, villalad21 said: I really can't stand this style of play. There has to be a middle ground. I have a heart attack every time the opponent got the ball. Bombing everyone forward. Playing at huge risk when we're in a relegation battle is f*** madness. Amazing how quickly you post in here after we lose and how long it takes you after we win. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonVillian Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Drinkwater starting again is beyond a joke and DS takes the entire blame for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I really can't stand this style of play. There has to be a middle ground. I have a heart attack every time the opponent got the ball. Bombing everyone forward. Playing at huge risk when we're in a relegation battle is f*** madness. We don't really bomb everyone forward. You're very, very happy when we lose. That's **** madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham t Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 We were battered by a bang average team. Deserved nothing. If Drinkwater plays again Smith deserves the sack. Regards, VLD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) Good performance. Defence a shambles. Promising game until 93rd minute. It was coming though. Midfield and defence was tiring. Samatta looked fine to continue - not shattered if tiring - and Dean risked it by bringing Borja on to go for the winner Rather than try and use a sub to shore up the midfield or defence. (Lack of options too though @Suso) Didn't work. We knew Dean would always go for the winner. It's risky but we wanted a manager that does that after years of boring boring football and being shit. Now we're just shit. But we are getting what we expected. I respect Dean for it and I won't demonise him for going for the winner. On paper we should have a great Defensive coach. Terry isn't pulling his weight and needs to step up. Quickly. Poor game management but we were promising again. McGinn to come back in 4 weeks and a cup final only a couple weeks away. Edited February 16, 2020 by HalfTimePost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I think overall we’ve improved in the last 6 weeks. However our long standing issues aren’t being addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I really can't stand this style of play. There has to be a middle ground. I have a heart attack every time the opponent got the ball. Bombing everyone forward. Playing at huge risk when we're in a relegation battle is f*** madness. As big Sam said on TS, first thing you need to do when at the bottom is keep clean sheets and build from there Considering our manager and assistant were both CB’s you have to wonder why it’s this bad The best form of defence is attack if you are Barcelona or Real Madrid etc, when your 4th from bottom of the league it really isn’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I haven't thought we'd get relegated once this season really. I've thought we had a fair go and probably would beat it. After today I think we are gone, even if there's lots of football to be played. We just have a team of bottle job losers like Engels. Winners who stay up don't **** up this way. We're gone. Next rebuild Smith. Better recruitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted February 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2020 Loss is nothing to do with Smith, Engels had a mare after two of our players went for the same header . Devastating loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Story of our season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 minute ago, HalfTimePost said: Good performance. Defence a shambles. Promising game until 93rd minute. It was coming though. Midfield and defence was tiring. Samatta looked fine to continue - not shattered if tiring - and Dean risked it by bringing Borja on to go for the winner Rather than try and use a sub to shore up the midfield or defence. (Lack of options too though @Suso) Didn't work. We knew Dean would always go for the winner. It's risky but we wanted a manager that does that after years of boring boring football and being shit. Now we're just shit. But we are getting what we expected. I respect Dean for it and I won't demonise him for going for the winner. On paper we should have a great Defensive coach. Terry isn't pulling his weight and needs to step up. Quickly. Poor game management but we were promising again. McGinn to come back in 4 weeks and a cup final only a couple weeks away. That cup final could end up a cricket score Worst part is that’s not even a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I really can't stand this style of play. There has to be a middle ground. I have a heart attack every time the opponent got the ball. Bombing everyone forward. Playing at huge risk when we're in a relegation battle is f*** madness. Why don't you just f**k off? That's the biggest question I've got right now. If I risk being banned, I'm soooo sorry but there's only so much a person can take of someone like you who just simply jumps on every single mistake someone makes, especially the manager. Maybe that's because I'm an assistant manager at work and get thrown to the lions every day. In your defence, today, I thought Smith made a few mistakes. First of all, why replace Nakamba with Drinkwater? To justify his wages? Surely that can be the only reason because the gulf between the two is like chalk and cheese. Secondly, why replace Samatta? He was a threat all game and an absolute brilliant signing but we subbed him for what? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Amazing how quickly you post in here after we lose and how long it takes you after we win. No it isn't amazing, the bloke is on a mission. It's his life's work to be right about Dean Smith. Can't you see it's Dean Smith's fault Engels missed the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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