foreveryoung Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I love Smith and really want him to be the manager to take us to the next level. I also believe he will. But Poch would be an amazing appointment. I like Smith too, but I doubt he will be the one to take us to the next level. He has his limitations maybe due to inexperience, an unfortunately we have never been a club to come to and allow much time to learn your trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Tactically speaking, fantastic starting eleven tonight. Dropping Nakamba (controversial) meant we were on the front foot all day. Well done. Unforgivable to not make any changes after 70 minutes. Very bad sign. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Enda said: Tactically speaking, fantastic starting eleven tonight. Dropping Nakamba (controversial) meant we were on the front foot all day. Well done. Unforgivable to not make any changes after 70 minutes. Very bad sign. Unforgivable We won the game with ease and have players who need to get used to putting in a 90 minute shift. Jesus christ. NO DEAN! I CAN'T FORGIVE YOU! Edited November 25, 2019 by lexicon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Smith really has Bruce's number doesn't he? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Not sure the obsession with making changes, well for this game anyway The 11 on the pitch were still creating enough chances, and Newcastle weren't creating anything of note No point making changes for the sake of it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, lexicon said: Unforgivable We won the game with ease and have players who need to get used to putting in a 90 minute shift. Jesus christ. We did win, but we didn't help ourselves. Play that match again and we'd throw it away. It's nearly December, not preseason. "Get used to putting in a 90 minute shift" is not an excuse to have kept John McGinn on that pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, Enda said: We did win, but we didn't help ourselves. Play that match again and we'd throw it away. It's nearly December, not preseason. "Get used to putting in a 90 minute shift" is not an excuse to have kept John McGinn on that pitch. Jesus christ, have a night off mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Good job Smithy boy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mantis said: Smith really has Bruce's number doesn't he? It's almost comical. I hated playing Brentford during the Brucie days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 minute ago, lexicon said: Jesus christ, have a night off mate. I'm abroad so only early afternoon here. Obviously it wasn't consequential tonight, but three points against an awful Newcastle side don't cover up Smith's unwillingness to make changes at 70 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, Enda said: Tactically speaking, fantastic starting eleven tonight. Dropping Nakamba (controversial) meant we were on the front foot all day. Well done. Unforgivable to not make any changes after 70 minutes. Very bad sign. Why? We were cruising. You don’t always have to make changes! He could have made a substitute and Newcastle scored. He’d then be getting hammered! Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I'd have liked some changes but he delivered on the result and performance, cannot criticise him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, Enda said: Tactically speaking, fantastic starting eleven tonight. Dropping Nakamba (controversial) meant we were on the front foot all day. Well done. Unforgivable to not make any changes after 70 minutes. Very bad sign. Why is it even when were winning that a change must be a thing of discussion. We won let's be happy about that, did it ever occur to people that he must have faith in the eleven to close out the game and that could be one reason in what he's trying to accomplish which is complete faith. Another could be to keep them playing a full 90 and they get used to the harsh extreme energy sapping that this league is known for. Making subs doesn't need to be a thing every game we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Enda said: I'm abroad so only early afternoon here. Obviously it wasn't consequential tonight, but three points against an awful Newcastle side don't cover up Smith's unwillingness to make changes at 70 minutes. Let's look at the last 5 league games shall we: Wolves - Injuries to Heaton and Targett limited his ability to make changes, subbed Nakamba at 69 minutes Liverpool - 2 subs around that time, one at 69 and one at 73 Man City - 1 sub around that time at 71 Brighton - 1 sub at 63, double sub at 76 Norwich - 1 at 64, 1 at 75 when we were 4-0 up. You literally don't have a point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Feet Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Does anyone else think that Smith Looks like Beaker from the muppets when he’s being interviews and pulls his lips in? Anyway well done dean. Good performance. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hobbit Feet said: Does anyone else think that Smith Looks like Beaker from the muppets when he’s being interviews and pulls his lips in? Anyway well done dean. Good performance. what's the point of that and no I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, lexicon said: You literally don't have a point. Right, right. Here's some quotes from the match thread: @sne"Boggles the mind why we are always so late with the subs." @bojong "Nakamba for Hourihane for last 10" @PieFacE "Unpopular opinion. I'd bring McGinn off. Doesn't look himself." @AVTuco "Maybe Elmo on for Guilbert? Need some strength." @Dr_Pangloss "Midfield gone to shit now, needs a change." @osmark86 "I would sub mcginn for nakamba. He's been ok but we should really just bring the brick wall back to these suckers. Would devastate them." @KHV "Changes please Dean" @deeps "McGinn needs a rest badly." @Dave-R "Can see gayle changing it for them, i agree with other we need to chsnge things up abit." But maybe we were all imagining things? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, Enda said: Right, right. Here's some quotes from the match thread: @sne"Boggles the mind why we are always so late with the subs." @bojong "Nakamba for Hourihane for last 10" @PieFacE "Unpopular opinion. I'd bring McGinn off. Doesn't look himself." @AVTuco "Maybe Elmo on for Guilbert? Need some strength." @Dr_Pangloss "Midfield gone to shit now, needs a change." @osmark86 "I would sub mcginn for nakamba. He's been ok but we should really just bring the brick wall back to these suckers. Would devastate them." @KHV "Changes please Dean" @deeps "McGinn needs a rest badly." @Dave-R "Can see gayle changing it for them, i agree with other we need to chsnge things up abit." But maybe we were all imagining things? And we won 2-0 and didn't look like letting that slip at any time.... I know you've quoted a bunch of seasoned professional football coaches/managers there but I think you need a bit of perspective. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Yeah the too late subs or lack of them is still an issue for me. Also don't think it's a coincidence that we've shipped many late goals. Today it didn't matter in the end thou. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Why? We were cruising. You don’t always have to make changes! Making my point here is going to take a bit of explaining. But when there's 100 things going on in a match (starting eleven, formation, subs, if the ref suddenly gives the opposition a harsh penalty, etc etc) you just can't use the result to get the whole picture. You can win the game even if you make bad subs. You can lose the game because of a bad VAR decision. So you need to keep them all in perspective. I don't agree we were cruising around 70 mins. When Gayle came on, and Andy Carroll had that chance, McGinn was bit off the pace, and Hourihane was becoming quieter. At that time the game was in the balance then. Obviously it ended up not mattering (thankfully) but we could all have seen that match going another way. A bit like taking off Wesley and bringing a centre-half with 5 mins to go against Liverpool could have won us 3 points. It might not have worked but it sort of makes sense when you're playing the percentages. Not freshening up that midfield in the second-half wasn't playing the percentages today. We were lucky Newcastle were so crap that it didn't matter in the end. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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