Merson08 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Sam3773 said: Impossible. Jones has never finished higher than League Two. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: The Smith critics message day in and day out about how he can not achieve anything other than midtable. Which is fine, I respect their opinion even though it’s the same thing repeated over and over again. Yet not one of you will accept my bet that if he remains in charge in the summer we will be challenging for top 2 next season. £10 to VT. Whos game? I'll take that bet and x it by 10 if you like, if we can have some clarification on the remit for challenging top 2! when by? how many points behind? Edit missed the other posts, 9 points is not challenging. Within 3 points of the top 2 by 01/01/20 And money to a charity of yours or my choosing Edited February 26, 2019 by jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: 9 points?? That's not exactly challenging top2. 4 is mor ereasonable and logical to the term "challenging" What! 9 points off by January is easily still in the running in my opinion. But I’m willing to drop it to 6 to prove the Smith doubters wrong. Is that still challenging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: What! 9 points off by January is easily still in the running in my opinion. But I’m willing to drop it to 6 to prove the Smith doubters wrong. Is that still challenging? Challenging for me would between 3-5 points tops from 2nd and just from January until at least April time. What's the point of chaee ging ubtiljan then you implode like Smith has after Xmas? That bet I'd take. Edited February 26, 2019 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted February 26, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) On 28th December 2017, after 25 games, Villa were 7th and 7 points off automatic promotion. That was after beating Boro 1-0. After the 5-0 win against Bristol on New Year’s Day Villa were 5th and 5 points off automatic promotion. I think it was generally considered Villa were in the running for automatic promotion that season. Probably worth considering the finer details, but I would say being 6 points off second place around the start of January is fair to say a side is challenging. It’s not really an exact science. I have no interest in taking part in the bet itself. Edit - I’m aware that it was a remarkable run, but Fulham were 13 points off second place on New Year’s Day. Edited February 26, 2019 by Shropshire Lad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted February 26, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) - Edited February 26, 2019 by Shropshire Lad Strange things are happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted February 26, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: What's the point of chaee ging ubtiljan? New Martial Arts star? Edited February 26, 2019 by Designer1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Risso Posted February 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Ok. Let’s say if Smith stays in charge for next season by 01/01/20 villa will be within 9 points of top 2? Loser pays £10 to VT. deal? Brilliant! "None of you have got the stomach to bet that Smith will get us challenging for the top 2!" *Self defines challenging for the top 2 in a way that isn't challenging for the top 2 at all* Yes OK then, please accept all of my cash. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LakotaDakota Posted February 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Risso said: Brilliant! "None of you have got the stomach to bet that Smith will get us challenging for the top 2!" *Self defines challenging for the top 2 in a way that isn't challenging for the top 2 at all* Yes OK then, please accept all of my cash. I'll bet you £20 that we're no more than 3 points off the top of the league after the first match of the season Edited February 26, 2019 by LakotaDakota 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Ultimately it's about whether you think he can get the club, in every aspect, ready for promotion. I believe he can. It's also a question whether you think going back to the tried and tested hoofball approach, while trying to buy ourselves out of the league, is a better choice for us. I don't. Now if the football is rubbish feel free to point it out, but it's reasonable to request some patience for a project that's 4 months and one January window in the making. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted February 26, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2019 Well I'd bet a £10 to VT that Smith will do at least as well as Bruce did after he had a summer etc. (playoffs) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 36 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: I'll bet you £20 that we're no more than 3 points off the top of the league after the first match of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 I'll bet we will be top of the league before a balls been kicked. Any takers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 I wonder what the excuse will be when Grealish is back fit again and we still can't win football games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted February 26, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, romavillan said: Well I'd bet a £10 to VT that Smith will do at least as well as Bruce did after he had a summer etc. (playoffs) This is the most logical offer regarding any potential bets in my opinion. Although I wouldn’t take the bet, or any other to be honest. I certainly wouldn’t take the bet until it was obvious what the summer brings anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Yeah sorry I said above that the teams down to 9th were within 9 points. It's actually 10 points. Still, the point remains. 9 points off 2nd place in January is not challenging for the top 2. Not even close. I wasn't aiming that at what you said, I was just trying show how much of a gap 9 points actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 50 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Ultimately it's about whether you think he can get the club, in every aspect, ready for promotion. I believe he can. It's also a question whether you think going back to the tried and tested hoofball approach, while trying to buy ourselves out of the league, is a better choice for us. I don't. Now if the football is rubbish feel free to point it out, but it's reasonable to request some patience for a project that's 4 months and one January window in the making. It absolutely isn't about this at all. If Smith fails we do not have to recruit allardyce, pullis, etc. -There are a whole host of other options To me its about whether smith can retain his attacking style of football, but also have a tight defence. - If he does we get promoted next season - no question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 35 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I'll bet we will be top of the league before a balls been kicked. Any takers? Plot twist. Arsenal get deducted 75 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 If we are 9 pts off 2nd at the end of january, i'd say Smith was doing a very good job regardless of who counts it as challenging or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: I wonder what the excuse will be when Grealish is back fit again and we still can't win football games. We will find one for you Alex. Don't worry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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