nick76 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I’m still not convinced this is going to go ahead, too many rich, powerful and very connected people going to lose a lot of money if this goes ahead. I assume it end up being more of a revamp of the CL than what was to be announced today. I’m thankful we have our owners and Purslow. With their contacts, especially Wes with the other American owners, their money and other contacts and then Purslows contacts it wouldn’t surprise if this moves forward if we aren’t in it or ar least we are going to be in good hands. I can’t imagine Edens or Purslow has been blinded by this, I’m sure they have been working behind the scenes....to what end I don’t know but they are too well connected not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Any peep yet from these two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, maqroll said: Any peep yet from these two? Not sure I'd expect one? Purslow has spoken, I don't see why they'd also feel the need to chime in. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Lerner and FFP all over again... The main hope has to be that unlike Lerner these 2, even if its through purslow, shout from the rooftops what a load of absolute bollocks this is I hope we make a lot of noise and if we consider ourselves this big club still we put ourselves at the forefront of the backlash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 19, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 19, 2021 The Leeds T-shirts are an indication of how angry the other Premier League clubs are. I think we'll see a lot of this and we'll be right at the front of it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa4europe Posted April 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2021 Me saying I hope they put us to the forefront... Imagine if we came out in kind of like "founded by us ruined by you" type tshirts on Wednesday night or had some huge McGregor banner made to put behind the dug ours right in the camera shot 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted April 19, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: Me saying I hope they put us to the forefront... Imagine if we came out in kind of like "founded by us ruined by you" type tshirts on Wednesday night or had some huge McGregor banner made to put behind the dug ours right in the camera shot This I like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted April 19, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: Me saying I hope they put us to the forefront... Imagine if we came out in kind of like "founded by us ruined by you" type tshirts on Wednesday night or had some huge McGregor banner made to put behind the dug ours right in the camera shot It would also cause a discussion with the sky generation as to what the message means Just providing extra kudos for our great club. It’s a cracking slogan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: Me saying I hope they put us to the forefront... Imagine if we came out in kind of like "founded by us ruined by you" type tshirts on Wednesday night or had some huge McGregor banner made to put behind the dug ours right in the camera shot Brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Hope they're still interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, Tomaszk said: Hope they're still interested. You’re assuming the Super League goes ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 11 hours ago, nick76 said: I’m still not convinced this is going to go ahead, too many rich, powerful and very connected people going to lose a lot of money if this goes ahead. I assume it end up being more of a revamp of the CL than what was to be announced today. I’m thankful we have our owners and Purslow. With their contacts, especially Wes with the other American owners, their money and other contacts and then Purslows contacts it wouldn’t surprise if this moves forward if we aren’t in it or ar least we are going to be in good hands. I can’t imagine Edens or Purslow has been blinded by this, I’m sure they have been working behind the scenes....to what end I don’t know but they are too well connected not to. Sadly, I think that this is going to happen. Maybe not now and maybe not in the current proposed format but I can’t see how it can be stopped. The PL may threaten to expel the 6 clubs but sadly the PL is massively diminished without them. The PL would just end up shooting their own product in the foot! Similarly do we really think that Fifa will ban the best players in the world from their World Cup? Not gonna happen. Money drives at the heart of the PL and FIFA just as much as with the 6 clubs. A compromise of sorts will be agreed and the rest of us will get screwed over . It’s so frustrating but I think it is unstoppable. I will always love Villa but my interest will dissipate if it does go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, M_Afro said: Sadly, I think that this is going to happen. Maybe not now and maybe not in the current proposed format but I can’t see how it can be stopped. The PL may threaten to expel the 6 clubs but sadly the PL is massively diminished without them. The PL would just end up shooting their own product in the foot! Similarly do we really think that Fifa will ban the best players in the world from their World Cup? Not gonna happen. Money drives at the heart of the PL and FIFA just as much as with the 6 clubs. A compromise of sorts will be agreed and the rest of us will get screwed over . It’s so frustrating but I think it is unstoppable. I will always love Villa but my interest will dissipate if it does go ahead. See I just don’t think it will happen, the CL format maybe changed further but I’ll be surprised if this Super League goes ahead. Too many current people who are well connected, very rich and have a big say will lose a lot of that and money if this goes ahead so they will do everything in their power to stop it. Add to that the government don’t want it and will intervene and they very much can through various methods. The Super League will back down and say they have compromised to something in the CL format. I just don’t see this moving forward in the current format, they have gone too extreme in their first proposal being greedy that will be their downfall. They should’ve been clever in the way they did it but now they have too many powerful people offside and no support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 12 hours ago, nick76 said: I’m still not convinced this is going to go ahead, too many rich, powerful and very connected people going to lose a lot of money if this goes ahead. I assume it end up being more of a revamp of the CL than what was to be announced today. I’m thankful we have our owners and Purslow. With their contacts, especially Wes with the other American owners, their money and other contacts and then Purslows contacts it wouldn’t surprise if this moves forward if we aren’t in it or ar least we are going to be in good hands. I can’t imagine Edens or Purslow has been blinded by this, I’m sure they have been working behind the scenes....to what end I don’t know but they are too well connected not to. Slightly different - but when Man City got a takeover that made our route to the CL so much harder - our then owner Lerner lost interest. Are these guys going to keep pumping in £100m - with no prospect of being anything other than also rans ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 29 minutes ago, M_Afro said: Sadly, I think that this is going to happen. Maybe not now and maybe not in the current proposed format but I can’t see how it can be stopped. The PL may threaten to expel the 6 clubs but sadly the PL is massively diminished without them. The PL would just end up shooting their own product in the foot! Similarly do we really think that Fifa will ban the best players in the world from their World Cup? Not gonna happen. Money drives at the heart of the PL and FIFA just as much as with the 6 clubs. A compromise of sorts will be agreed and the rest of us will get screwed over . It’s so frustrating but I think it is unstoppable. I will always love Villa but my interest will dissipate if it does go ahead. Yes - this or something of its Ilk will happen over the next few years. You will still have and enjoy Aston villa though - but we will operate in a niche area. Great for us diehards - but as a saleable product to a worldwide audience of billions - it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, hippo said: Slightly different - but when Man City got a takeover that made our route to the CL so much harder - our then owner Lerner lost interest. Are these guys going to keep pumping in £100m - with no prospect of being anything other than also rans ? They already knew this yet still brought us, we are still hearing their desires even by Purslow. Until we see or hear different, I think they are because they are telling they are and maybe they have bigger plans than your last line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, nick76 said: They already knew this yet still brought us, we are still hearing their desires even by Purslow. Until we see or hear different, I think they are because they are telling they are and maybe they have bigger plans than your last line. But how are those plans going to be realised ? Say we finish top 4 next season - but then don't get ESL football ? A while back the route the CL was pretty much blocked. Then Leicester happened. - after that clubs like villa / Leeds / Everton got owners where actually CL was an ambitious but acheiveable. Some well managed clubs muscled in where they weren't supposed to. The actions of the last 24 hours are to correct those fault lines and restore order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, hippo said: But how are those plans going to be realised ? Say we finish top 4 next season - but then don't get ESL football ? A while back the route the CL was pretty much blocked. Then Leicester happened. - after that clubs like villa / Leeds / Everton got owners where actually CL was an ambitious but acheiveable. Some well managed clubs muscled in where they weren't supposed to. The actions of the last 24 hours are to correct those fault lines and restore order. I don’t think the ESL will go ahead and explained elsewhere why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, nick76 said: I don’t think the ESL will go ahead and explained elsewhere why. It might not be called the ESL - but something in that direction will happen over the next few years. Remember how many times an English premier League idea bit the dust ? - but it just kept coming back , time after time - this will be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, hippo said: It might not be called the ESL - but something in that direction will happen over the next few years. Remember how many times an English premier League idea bit the dust ? - but it just kept coming back , time after time - this will be the same. Not convinced mate sorry. They’ll make more changes to the CL but there won’t be fixed teams in a CL/ESL future format, it’ll still be earned. It’s the only reason PL got through. The greed, and rejection and condemnation of it has set the idea of the ESL type format back years and years because others will be afraid to propose it because people will remember this and I expect some anti-competition laws will be enacted to stop this in the future. Their greed has completely hurt what they wanted to do. Edited April 19, 2021 by nick76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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