Reivax_Villa Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 50 minutes ago, PeterSw said: He brought in Smith which proved to be a masterstoke and sacked him a bit too soon. Then brought in Gerrard as they thought he was a young, up and coming manager who could be here for years. It hasn't worked out that way and I think come the WC break, they will make another change if/when results don't improve. He will know the pressure on this one given the season ticket waiting list, the north stand redevelopment and the shear importance of remaining in the Premier League. I can see him going all out for a proven manager like Poch/Tuchel/Rodgers and hopefully one of which takes up the post. The issue for him will be what to do if the 'big names' don't come. I have faith that he will get the next one right. On the whole, I think he has done great things for the club and won't want that to go backwards. Aint happening.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 57 minutes ago, duke313 said: Sacked Smith at the right time, just replaced him with the wrong person. I think Smith would have got the points on the board when his players returned but end of last season was probably the time to cut ties Not rush in because Newcastle nearly hired his bestie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicRic Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Have we brought in Tuchel yet i prefer him over poch for some reason his personality and character is A1 aswell as coaching methods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, RicRic said: Have we brought in Tuchel yet i prefer him over poch for some reason his personality and character is A1 aswell as coaching methods Either would be a signal of intent in a way that Slippy wasn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, PeterSw said: He brought in Smith which proved to be a masterstoke and sacked him a bit too soon. Then brought in Gerrard as they thought he was a young, up and coming manager who could be here for years. It hasn't worked out that way and I think come the WC break, they will make another change if/when results don't improve. He will know the pressure on this one given the season ticket waiting list, the north stand redevelopment and the shear importance of remaining in the Premier League. I can see him going all out for a proven manager like Poch/Tuchel/Rodgers and hopefully one of which takes up the post. The issue for him will be what to do if the 'big names' don't come. I have faith that he will get the next one right. On the whole, I think he has done great things for the club and won't want that to go backwards. I am going to be controversial here and say that I think his two mistakes were: (1) sacking Smith too late and (2) then probably hiring the wrong person. I know it would have possibly upset even more fans if he has sacked Smith at the end of the 2020/21 season. But I think the issues that ultimately led to Smith being sacked were already there (struggle to turn around poor runs of form, difference in form when Jack was not in the team, question marks over ability to attract higher profile signings). I think we would have been a very attractive prospect for a lot of managers at the level we needed at that time. Jack was still here, we got a couple of good signings in early, still had money to spend. Definitely more reasons for a top manager to think that a top half finish was achievable with the possibility of maybe sneaking a top 8 challenge. I would have hoped / expected that we'd have had a good chance of attracting a serious name. It might even have been enough to convince Jack that it was worth giving us another season (although I think Man City might still have tempted him). I certainly think we would have had more names / options than Gerrard. Of course had the answer still been Gerrard then the "fan revolt" would have been much bigger. But if we had got a genuine top level manager then I think we'd have said it was a bit hard on Smith but it was the right thing to do for the club to try and kick on. Overall though I think that the club are in a much better position than we have been for a long time - certainly in terms of everything that is happening off the pitch. But the on field issues are definitely piing the pressure on. I am sure that Stevie G will be pointing to 4 matches undefeated but if definitely feels like we are 3 or 4 points off what we should have got from those 4 matches (although for me the issue is more about the performance levels rather than the actual results). Edited October 13, 2022 by allani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vive_La_Villa Posted October 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) I’m no fan of Purslow but what is he meant to say in public if asked about Gerrard. He has to back his employees. What happens behind closed doors is a different story. Some may miss the brashness of a Wyness who would publicly call out managers but this how things are done now. Edited October 13, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I’m no fan of Purslow but what is he meant to say in public if asked about Gerrard. He has to back his employees. What happens behind closed doors is a different story. Some may miss the brashness of a Wyness who would publicly call out managers but this how things are done now. Yeah I'll judge Purslow on his actions over the next week or two rather than what he may have said. If we limp to defeat on Sunday and the Holte turns, if he doesn't act then then I'll lose all faith in him. I still think Gerrard's appointment is his only major cock up. Yes other things may have gone awry along the way but I think there was logic behind them, whereas he got a bit blinded by Gerrard the player as a few on here still are. He's only human and can make mistakes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 25 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: Yeah I'll judge Purslow on his actions over the next week or two rather than what he may have said. If we limp to defeat on Sunday and the Holte turns, if he doesn't act then then I'll lose all faith in him. I still think Gerrard's appointment is his only major cock up. Yes other things may have gone awry along the way but I think there was logic behind them, whereas he got a bit blinded by Gerrard the player as a few on here still are. He's only human and can make mistakes. Gerrard or Gerrard I think he’s a bit of a prick. But his job isn’t to be liked so doesn’t matter what I or others think. Hopefully he does right by the club and pulls the trigger on Gerrard soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsworthvilla Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, sharkyvilla said: Yeah I'll judge Purslow on his actions over the next week or two rather than what he may have said. If we limp to defeat on Sunday and the Holte turns, if he doesn't act then then I'll lose all faith in him. I still think Gerrard's appointment is his only major cock up. Yes other things may have gone awry along the way but I think there was logic behind them, whereas he got a bit blinded by Gerrard the player as a few on here still are. He's only human and can make mistakes. It's nice to read a balanced assessment. Nobody has a crystal ball. He obviously did what he thought was right for the club at the time, it doesn't make him a prick just because that decision has proved to be the wrong one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, handsworthvilla said: It's nice to read a balanced assessment. Nobody has a crystal ball. He obviously did what he thought was right for the club at the time, it doesn't make him a prick just because that decision has proved to be the wrong one. Whilst true, purslow shouldn't be at the extreme end of opinion, one way or the other. As it stands the significant majority of the fan base want him gone. He shouldn't be waiting until everyone does before he fires him. If he does, then he's let his personal relationship hinder his judgement and it raises some questions over his ability to get it right next time. Particularly given his last stint as a senior figure on the football side of a club ended in failure. Gerrard should have been sacked already. I don't know why he's still here or what anyone expects him to achieve after repeatedly making the same mistakes. Edited October 13, 2022 by MrBlack 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsworthvilla Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, MrBlack said: Whilst true, purslow shouldn't be at the extreme end of opinion, one way or the other. As it stands the significant majority of the fan base want him gone. He shouldn't be waiting until everyone does before he fires him. If he does, then he's let his personal relationship hinder his judgement and it raises some questions over his ability to get it right next time. Particularly given his last stint as a senior figure on the football side of a club ended in failure. Gerrard should have been sacked already. I don't know why he's still here or what anyone expects him to achieve after repeatedly making the same mistakes. Whilst I absolutely agree he should not let his personal relationship hinder his judgement, I would hope and expect he is not just basing his decision on fans opinion. I imagine fans opinion is just one of several factors he needs to consider before arriving at a position. If it was as simple as gauging fan opinion and acting on that we could do away with the CEO role and just conduct a monthly fans survey. We'd end up paying a lot of compensation though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 hours ago, handsworthvilla said: It's nice to read a balanced assessment. Nobody has a crystal ball. He obviously did what he thought was right for the club at the time, it doesn't make him a prick just because that decision has proved to be the wrong one. Except he hired his mate with no experience....if he hired Sean Dyche and failed its a different story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 15 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I’m no fan of Purslow but what is he meant to say in public if asked about Gerrard. He has to back his employees. What happens behind closed doors is a different story. Some may miss the brashness of a Wyness who would publicly call out managers but this how things are done now. Didnt he make a stupid remark to the media at end of 2021 season that he was disappointed Smith didnt get us to Europe Actually shambolic comment now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Zatman said: Didnt he make a stupid remark to the media at end of 2021 season that he was disappointed Smith didnt get us to Europe Actually shambolic comment now The guy is full of it and out of touch with how hard the Premier League is. I remember when we got promoted he said we’re not just here to make up the numbers, we’re here to challenge. Smith was sitting next to him looking really uncomfortable. Edited October 14, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 17 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: The guy is full of it and out of touch with how hard the Premier League is. I remember when we got promoted he said we’re not just here to make up the numbers, we’re here to challenge. Smith was sitting next to him looking really uncomfortable. But then at one point Dean Smith said his aim was to finish first and Purslow looked shocked lol 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 If we continue to stick with Gerrard based on nothing but hope then Purslow and the owners deserve every bit of criticism they'll receive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark Albrighton Posted October 14, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2022 Away from footballing matters, I’m sorry to read of the recent passing of Purslow’s dad. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Name Is Death Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) This is incredibly worrying. https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-purslow-gerrard-manager-25261776 Quote What Christian Purslow said when asked about Steven Gerrard Aston Villa future The Villa CEO was present at this week’s Fans’ Consultation Group meeting to discuss Villa’s two new crest designs ahead of the chosen one - either a round 82-style or ‘gas lamp’ medieval shield shape - featuring on next season’s new kit. Purslow, meanwhile, was asked about Villa’s current form and, according to Villa blogger MOMS, stressed his side had been “unlucky” in recent games and, with a bit more fortune in the final third, it could have easily been six points instead of two against Leeds and Forest. Elsewhere, it’s understood that Gerrard has the full backing from Purslow and the club’s owners, Nassef Sawiris and Wes Edens, while it was also cited that replacing the manager - W8 D8 L13 so far in 2022 - hasn't even been spoken about despite concerns amongst some sections of supporters. Villa sit in 16th but, having taken nine points from nine this season, Gerrard’s position remains a strong one with the club hoping Villa can pick up in the next few weeks. The head coach now enters a three-game week against Chelsea, Fulham and Brentford and it’s understood Purslow and Villa’s hierarchy hope Villa will be in and amongst the top-half of the Premier League by the time the six-week World Cup break comes around next month which, in turn, will then give Gerrard the chance to reset and to really kick-start Villa’s season heading into 2023. Staying with Purslow and, at this week’s meeting, he outlined how the loss of Diego Carlos and Boubacar Kamara had been pivotal to Villa’s poor start to the season. It’s hoped that Kamara will be back for the Liverpool game on Boxing Day while Diego Carlos could make his return as soon as January to give Villa a much-needed boost ahead of a strong finish to the current campaign. “The loss of Diego Carlos was cited as pivotal,” MOMS outlined. “Purslow was undoubtedly impressed with what he’s seen by Carlos on and off the pitch, adding how he’d have been Villa captain if he spoke frequent English.” Edited October 14, 2022 by His Name Is Death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 14, 2022 This article is mental. It's short and has many insane things. Quote Christian Purslow believes Aston Villa have been “unlucky” in their most recent fixtures against Leeds United and Nottingham Forest with Steven Gerrard’s side failing to take maximum points which would have seen them rocket into the top half. Quote Purslow, meanwhile, was asked about Villa’s current form and, according to Villa blogger MOMS, stressed his side had been “unlucky” in recent games and, with a bit more fortune in the final third, it could have easily been six points instead of two against Leeds and Forest. Quote Villa sit in 16th but, having taken nine points from nine this season, Gerrard’s position remains a strong one with the club hoping Villa can pick up in the next few weeks. Quote it’s understood Purslow and Villa’s hierarchy hope Villa will be in and amongst the top-half of the Premier League by the time the six-week World Cup break comes around next month which, in turn, will then give Gerrard the chance to reset and to really kick-start Villa’s season heading into 2023. Quote “The loss of Diego Carlos was cited as pivotal,” MOMS outlined. “Purslow was undoubtedly impressed with what he’s seen by Carlos on and off the pitch, adding how he’d have been Villa captain if he spoke frequent English.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmirch Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Completely compromised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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