Villaphan04 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Is it bad that a part of me was hoping he was gonna get a 2nd yellow near the end of the game so he'd be forced to be dropped because of suspension? Because I don't think Smith is gonna rotate him unless he's injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I think it’s a combination of jadedness and playing too far forward that has seen his form drop off. The reason he’s playing further forward is probably to offer more support for the struggling Wesley. Adding an effective and energetic striker in January is vital both for goals and the effect it could have on other players including John McGinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 8, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 8, 2019 Why does Dean drop other midfielders, mix and match them but John McGinn is in woeful form, has been for some time yet starts week in week out and stays on the pitch all game? He needs resting because he's a shadow of his former self. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Needs dropped immediately, a limited player who has offered nothing the last few games. Hourihane Luiz Marvelous as the middle three. Each of these have been dropped yet McGinn is immune.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Forms fallen off a cliff. Needs a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Rest him, dear god rest him Poor everything at the moment, just not happening for him. We are missing his normal hustle and bustle and moves are continually breaking down due to miss placed passing, holding ball too long, poor control and badly timed tackles. He needs to give his Cape a wash to become super again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwdriver Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Is mCginn suspended many people are saying he has accumulated too many cards now and won't travel to brammel lane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Hope so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiltorken Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, screwdriver said: Is mCginn suspended many people are saying he has accumulated too many cards now and won't travel to brammel lane? He's only on two yellows, needs 5 for a ban. Grealish is currently on 4 btw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommytenjobs Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Poor today. Lacked verve, should have been carded on at least three occasions. They walked around him, luiz and nakamba too often. Needs a break. Feel sorry for Connor that it's always him being dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhavenhibby Posted December 8, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) Par for the course with him I am afraid ............one can never doubt his running and commitment but........ I was hoping some of his play would improve in the bigger leagues from when he was with us, but still suffers from judgement issues and especially weight of pass at times. Some players seem to get their name on the teamsheet first irrespective of form etc and at present this seems to be happening with Smith. After today and by the sound of it, the last few weeks, he needs a rest and to get some confidence back. Hopefully, the coaches will realise that playing him in a deeper role is better and pull him back to where he was when he first moved to you. He is now playing against some of the best defenders and midfielders in the World who are not only skillful but are as strong if not stronger than he is. The coaches and he have to develop his game to cope with this but asking to play attacking midfield just behind the strikers is not right for him. He is a great lad and professional and I am sure if dropped he would fight hard to get back into the side and still give his all for AVFC. Edited December 8, 2019 by newhavenhibby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 On 07/12/2019 at 18:19, TRO said: I am just wondering, if being moved further forward, we have lost that bit of ball winning from him and arse roll, He used to win crucial duels and send us on our way, it seems to have disappeared.....it seems like he has been told he can score goals and he is waiting for the pass that he used to create, but no one is now doing it. just a thought......but he has lost his effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) He's been largely shite since the Brighton game, with one or two average to decent displays. Definitely doubting his actual quality at this level. Edited December 8, 2019 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhavenhibby Posted December 9, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2019 Have a fear you may be right Dr Pangloss....................however would still like to see him start deeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I don't think this is on John at all. He's being positioned way too high up the pitch. He's much better when he battles deeper and turns his engine on breaking forwards. We also look more balanced then. This is more on Deano than on McGinn or his current form. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 He can be a brilliant impact player off the bench. Think this should be tried due to his recent form. Half hour with something to prove might get him through this dip in form/confidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Needs to be dropped for the Sheffield game so he is raring to go in the next 3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: Needs to be dropped for the Sheffield game so he is raring to go in the next 3. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 36 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: He can be a brilliant impact player off the bench. Think this should be tried due to his recent form. Half hour with something to prove might get him through this dip in form/confidence. Agreed - he doesn't really deserve to start at the moment IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, lexicon said: Agreed - he doesn't really deserve to start at the moment IMO. Tbf, you could make a similar argument for most of our midfield right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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