TRO Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I was interested in his comments after the game today.....He seemed a bit miffed naturally, but was searching for answers and said " we seem to struggle with 10 men" ......while its obvious, it raises many questions. I thought we took the goals well, as we normally do.......The pitch craft and transition work looks low grade at times......perhaps why we struggle to contain teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Guy is a total winner, I can fully understand the frustration in his comments. Dosen't mean he's having a dig at Dean Smith btw as I'm sure there's plenty of respect between the two. He's been one of our best players this season. Now needs more help and more bodies around him in central midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 He's brilliant. Still need more from him though. That second half he wasn't getting involved enough and we need him getting on the ball so we can have some "relaxed" possession. I'm sure that's part of the reason we're getting so tired. The least amount of passes bar Wes. Can't be right when the guy next to you playing the same position has the most. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Elmo had a shocker then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 25 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: He's brilliant. Still need more from him though. That second half he wasn't getting involved enough and we need him getting on the ball so we can have some "relaxed" possession. I'm sure that's part of the reason we're getting so tired. The least amount of passes bar Wes. Can't be right when the guy next to you playing the same position has the most. To me, that just shows that he only really gets involved when he wants something to happen. It's not being a team player, holding your position and keeping the tempo moving with us. As soon as we got under the cosh, he should have reverted back to being a CM, getting the ball and passing it around - looks like that didn't happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: To me, that just shows that he only really gets involved when he wants something to happen. It's not being a team player, holding your position and keeping the tempo moving with us. As soon as we got under the cosh, he should have reverted back to being a CM, getting the ball and passing it around - looks like that didn't happen. It could show that if you want to interpret it that way. We know McGinn though, he is a team player, he's the team player. He's maybe going about it the wrong way when we're under pressure. Is he pushing forward as support for Wes because no one else will/is? He's certainly showing a return in terms of goals/assists/chances created, he's our most involved offensive player easily. He's far from the most pressing issue, but I expect the best (or just better) from players like him and Jack because they're good enough to ask for it. He averaged being further forward than El Ghazi. We either need to get the ball up to him, or he's got to come and make himself available for it. Can't be having a centre mid with 18 passes against 10 men for most of the game. As usual I think he'll keep improving a this occasional lack of involvement will get solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 He really needs to get on the ball more. He's an action-time player, I get that, but you're also a CM. Keep possession. Other than that, he's just brilliant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: It could show that if you want to interpret it that way. We know McGinn though, he is a team player, he's the team player. He's maybe going about it the wrong way when we're under pressure. Is he pushing forward as support for Wes because no one else will/is? He's certainly showing a return in terms of goals/assists/chances created, he's our most involved offensive player easily. He's far from the most pressing issue, but I expect the best (or just better) from players like him and Jack because they're good enough to ask for it. He averaged being further forward than El Ghazi. We either need to get the ball up to him, or he's got to come and make himself available for it. Can't be having a centre mid with 18 passes against 10 men for most of the game. As usual I think he'll keep improving a this occasional lack of involvement will get solved. Wow he is literally playing off of Wesley's shoulder as a second striker. I don't have a problem with Mcginn playing that way it has obviously reaped benefits for us but we really need another CM for cover. That just leaves way to much ground for Grealish and Nkamaba to cover. What's the point of playing 2 wingers if one has to drop in the midfield to compensate for your actual CM venturing forward. Maybe it's time to try a double pivot with 3 in front and Wesley as the lone striker. Mcginn needs to do his thing up top but it shouldn't be a winger having to cover for his forward runs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Tomaszk said: It could show that if you want to interpret it that way. We know McGinn though, he is a team player, he's the team player. He's maybe going about it the wrong way when we're under pressure. Is he pushing forward as support for Wes because no one else will/is? He's certainly showing a return in terms of goals/assists/chances created, he's our most involved offensive player easily. He's far from the most pressing issue, but I expect the best (or just better) from players like him and Jack because they're good enough to ask for it. He averaged being further forward than El Ghazi. We either need to get the ball up to him, or he's got to come and make himself available for it. Can't be having a centre mid with 18 passes against 10 men for most of the game. As usual I think he'll keep improving a this occasional lack of involvement will get solved. Where do you get this graphic from out of curiosity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, MaVilla said: Where do you get this graphic from out of curiosity? Opta. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 He's making it happen. This guy wasn't even on the radar a few years ago. He's a champion and a great example of why you give your best at any level and see where it leads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 My 7 year old son idolises him. He’s the first ever player that he’s latched on to. Every team needs a McGinn. Brilliant player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 On 23/09/2019 at 17:04, Tomaszk said: It could show that if you want to interpret it that way. We know McGinn though, he is a team player, he's the team player. He's maybe going about it the wrong way when we're under pressure. Is he pushing forward as support for Wes because no one else will/is? He's certainly showing a return in terms of goals/assists/chances created, he's our most involved offensive player easily. He's far from the most pressing issue, but I expect the best (or just better) from players like him and Jack because they're good enough to ask for it. He averaged being further forward than El Ghazi. We either need to get the ball up to him, or he's got to come and make himself available for it. Can't be having a centre mid with 18 passes against 10 men for most of the game. As usual I think he'll keep improving a this occasional lack of involvement will get solved. He really does need to be deeper. He is best bringing the ball out but he can't do that so far up. On top of this Grealish is better than mcginn idn the final third at everything except shooting and should be higher than mcginn creating chances for our other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LxYoungAVFC Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Superstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) Just outstanding today. He absolutely bossed it. How we're gonna hold onto him next summer I don't know. Oh and his celebration was bloody brilliant, what a bloke. Edited September 28, 2019 by Farlz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Playing Connor and Nakamba allowed John to stay forward without us sacrificing the midfield. Going forward I think that is the way we have to play. This is the first game Jack and John both looked completely comfortable in their positioning. More of the same Deano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Very good game, first half bosses it. So strong driving forward. But was dead on his legs again with 10 to play. Was virtually just stood on the edge of their box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 IMO he’s twice as good as any of our other players. The guy is the new Milner. He’s got a massive career in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 I've been watching Villa for 30 years. I can kinda remember the first Graham Taylor era but it's probably the Big Ron team of 92/93 which I first paid a lot of attention to, and I'm already starting to think John McGinn is as good as any central midfielder who has played for us in that time. He's defiantly the best player in the current squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Honestly, I've never loved a player as much as I love him. Does he ever have an average game, never mind poor game? I don't say this lightly, but he has the potential to be THE best midfielder in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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