SirSteveUK Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 8 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: You're right. We need to go up this season and it should still be our target. We don't 'need' to go up as in 'promotion or bust' - it would be obviously nice and helpful - and of course it is our target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted January 18, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2019 We only need to scrape 6th place to be in with a chance...it's hardly Mt. Everest is it? I think it's entirely likely we will manage that over the rest of the season. After a bad result and performance against Wigan it is tempting to think that this is how we will play for the rest of the season, but I would bet that come the end of the season the Wigan game will comfortably be our worst performance of the year. It certainly seems like a blip rather than status quo based on all of Smiths games to date. If Smith can find some form and keep pace with the rest of the top 6 for the next month then the eventual return of Grealish and Axel will give us a massive boost at a key point for the run in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 39 minutes ago, SirSteveUK said: We don't 'need' to go up as in 'promotion or bust' - it would be obviously nice and helpful - and of course it is our target. True, but like you say. The pro's far outweigh the con's on this occasion imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 It's not as if we have a core squad of players who we are building a long term squad around. It's a season by season constant rebuild. Promotion will mean a total rebuild, no promotion will also mean a total rebuild. Kalinic, McGinn, Grealish, that's the core as it looks now. Our around 30 y.o players are struggling this season and are unlikely to improve the next one. Keeping Grealish another season in the Championship is doubtful. While rebuilding in the PL will cost a lot more and be against much tougher opposition, we will at least have money and the opportunity for our new owners to show their true mark. Doing it in the Championship with little money is a much less desirable prospect IMO. we've not laid any foundation during our time in the Championship. Thanks to Xia, Wyness, Round, RDM and Bruce for that. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, sne said: It's not as if we have a core squad of players who we are building a long term squad around. It's a season by season constant rebuild. Promotion will mean a total rebuild, no promotion will also mean a total rebuild. Kalinic, McGinn, Grealish, that's the core as it looks now. Our around 30 y.o players are struggling this season and are unlikely to improve the next one. Keeping Grealish another season in the Championship is doubtful. While rebuilding in the PL will cost a lot more and be against much tougher opposition, we will at least have money and the opportunity for our new owners to show their true mark. Doing it in the Championship with little money is a much less desirable prospect IMO. we've not laid any foundation during our time in the Championship. Thanks to Xia, Wyness, Round, RDM and Bruce for that. Spot on sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted January 18, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2019 Is this thread still open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, AVTuco said: Is this thread still open? While we remain 5 points off play-offs I would say very much so. Quite a few games to go yet before last orders. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 18, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2019 On 14/01/2019 at 11:46, Tomaszk said: Remarkable appointment Quite remarkable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Hull who were as good as gone are now above us and competing for promotion rather than avoid relegation. Anything could happen once form click on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 This image form 10 years ago shows both how far we have fallen, and also why we need to be patient and stop freaking the f*ck out. Look at Leicester and Bournemouth? Both teams which never had the resources we did/do. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Just watching pukki for Norwich.....free tansfer from Brondby. 55 in 130 games....28.... free transfer.....are we asleep? I know you need a bit of luck, but Brondby are not strangers to us...i.e Kent Nielsen. Are our scouts awake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, TRO said: Just watching pukki for Norwich.....free tansfer from Brondby. 55 in 130 games....28.... free transfer.....are we asleep? I know you need a bit of luck, but Brondby are not strangers to us...i.e Kent Nielsen. Are our scouts awake. Earning a quarter of what Scott Hogan earns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: This image form 10 years ago shows both how far we have fallen, and also why we need to be patient and stop freaking the f*ck out. Look at Leicester and Bournemouth? Both teams which never had the resources we did/do. Resources are a big advantage.....prudent decisions are even bigger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, TRO said: Just watching pukki for Norwich.....free tansfer from Brondby. 55 in 130 games....28.... free transfer.....are we asleep? I know you need a bit of luck, but Brondby are not strangers to us...i.e Kent Nielsen. Are our scouts awake. well I be worried signing him as he only hit double figures twice ever in a 12 year career and in last 2 seasons in a poorer league. Paid off for Norwich but not a sure fire hit since he already failed in UK. Remember Helenius had a good record in Denmark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 18, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: This image form 10 years ago shows both how far we have fallen, and also why we need to be patient and stop freaking the f*ck out. Look at Leicester and Bournemouth? Both teams which never had the resources we did/do. It’s not looking good for spurs.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: well I be worried signing him as he only hit double figures twice ever in a 12 year career and in last 2 seasons in a poorer league. Paid off for Norwich but not a sure fire hit since he already failed in UK. Remember Helenius had a good record in Denmark He was pants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Zatman said: well I be worried signing him as he only hit double figures twice ever in a 12 year career and in last 2 seasons in a poorer league. Paid off for Norwich but not a sure fire hit since he already failed in UK. Remember Helenius had a good record in Denmark Yeah, i get that....form can be misleading. just watching his anticipation, decision making and movement.....he does look like a player, where its not surprising he scores goals. 2014- 10 2015 - 13 2016- 27 2017-19 2018-16 so far in the championship not bad for a free transfer @ 28 don't you think? bit of a pattern i would say. Edited January 18, 2019 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkiller1981 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: This image form 10 years ago shows both how far we have fallen, and also why we need to be patient and stop freaking the f*ck out. Look at Leicester and Bournemouth? Both teams which never had the resources we did/do. Just looking at that 4 teams from league 1 and 2 are now in the premier league with one more in Leeds likley to be there next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 59 minutes ago, Shropshire Lad said: It’s not looking good for spurs.... I believe they had 2 points from 8 games before the manager change but the manager would be too humble to tell you that all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I don't see much hope in us going up this season because of our awful defending. Any promotion side or good team in general have a solid defense as a foundation. I actually don't think our defense is bad at all, i think it's ok. I just think DS is an awful defensive coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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