sne Posted Wednesday at 12:11 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:11 Not war, state terrorism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted Wednesday at 12:26 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:26 14 minutes ago, sne said: Not war, state terrorism. State terrorism/ genocide, sponsored by the west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted Wednesday at 14:56 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:56 Walkie Talkies exploding now. Madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted Wednesday at 15:14 VT Supporter Share Posted Wednesday at 15:14 3 hours ago, villa89 said: How do Israeli's keep voting him into power would be a better question... That one I can answer: Fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_AA_786 Posted Wednesday at 15:17 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:17 Smacks of a true lack of regard for international law and an unwavering confidence that there will be no meaningful international ramifications for his actions. Personal view is that Netanyahu sees Trump being less likely to get in office so is killing as many people as possible knowing that in November/December he'll concede to a Ceasefire where he can give Kamala an early political win in return for continued military/financial support. I'm sure by the time of the next Israei election, there'll be another "terror incident" allowed to happen so he can benefit from voters wanting his hard line tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted Wednesday at 15:40 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:40 (edited) 3 hours ago, sidcow said: Hezbollah people with family in close proximity, standing next to civilians on trains, on buses and in supermarkets as clearly demonstrated in the video shown on the news. How many innocent people injured and maimed just by standing a bit too close to a planted bomb? Didn't we kill 500,000+ "innocent" civilians in WW2 in our (successful) efforts to destroy the enemy ? Did that make our efforts wrong ? Hamas and Hezbollah not only hide among their people, they are supported by their people hence I struggle with the concept of "innocent" victims in these conflicts albeit I feel for the kids who have played no part in the wrongs. The best thing that could ever happen over there is for the people to rise up and reject the terrorist groups representing them ...... and no, that will not happen ! Edited Wednesday at 15:41 by Paul33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted Wednesday at 15:51 VT Supporter Share Posted Wednesday at 15:51 54 minutes ago, Genie said: Walkie Talkies exploding now. Madness. Ten four that good buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted Wednesday at 15:52 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:52 11 minutes ago, Paul33 said: Didn't we kill 500,000+ "innocent" civilians in WW2 in our (successful) efforts to destroy the enemy ? Did that make our efforts wrong ? I wonder how many civilian deaths there were in the coalition invasion of Iraq (chasing the non existent WOMD). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted Wednesday at 15:56 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:56 3 hours ago, pas5898 said: I think many expect Israel to just sit and wait until Hezbollah carry out their manifesto ......... Source - CIA Source - Doctrine of Hezbollah Substitute the Great Khalifate for Israel and this synopsis could just as easily be true. There are Muslims out there who want Spain back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted Wednesday at 17:17 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:17 1 hour ago, _AA_786 said: Smacks of a true lack of regard for international law and an unwavering confidence that there will be no meaningful international ramifications for his actions. Personal view is that Netanyahu sees Trump being less likely to get in office so is killing as many people as possible knowing that in November/December he'll concede to a Ceasefire where he can give Kamala an early political win in return for continued military/financial support. I'm sure by the time of the next Israei election, there'll be another "terror incident" allowed to happen so he can benefit from voters wanting his hard line tactics. Here we go again with the conspiracy theory that Israel “allowed” October 7th to happen. Nice way to make it the Jews fault for atrocities committed against them. I’ve never heard that one before. Let's have a chat about 9/11 being a CIA inside job, the moon landings were staged at Area 51, Elvis is still alive and we’re all being controlled by lizard people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bickster Posted Wednesday at 17:21 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted Wednesday at 17:21 4 hours ago, Jon said: State terrorism/ genocide, sponsored by the west 4 hours ago, sne said: Not war, state terrorism. The state terrorism line applies to both sides in this war. Hezbollah and Hamas are terrorist organisations acting as a proxy for Iran The semantic arguments are pointless. It's a war. There is an entire global conflict playing out, now more than possibly ever. There are two sides. "The West" and the alliance of Russia / Iran / North Korea / China et al. I think it's important to recognise this in all of the current conflicts. It really doesn't matter which conflict you want to pick. Israel / Palestine / Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Ukraine its the same two sides, mostly being fought with proxies (except for one side in Ukraine) The idea that it isn't a war is daft. It clearly is. Yes there is "state sponsored terrorism" on BOTH sides in all of the theatres of this conflict Yes, Israel are probably committing genocide in Gaza, so are Russia in Ukraine, so are the Saudis in Yemen. Yes its horrible, yes I really hope it stops but I can't see how that happens. Telling people that is Israel is practising state sponsored terrorism whilst failing to also recognise that the enemy they are fighting actually fits that description perfectly too just doesn't sit right with me. I'm on neither side when it comes to Israel but I do at least see where they fit in the grand scheme of things and I'm most definitely not on the side of Russia / Iran et al 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted Wednesday at 17:28 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:28 I'm sure there have been some posters doing it but it can't be many on here who doesn't recognize Hamas and Hezbollah as terrorist organizations and what they do is terrorism or are defending their actions. The body count is something like 40-50 to one here so bringing up that terrorists are evil every time Israel kills another couple families is hardly needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted Wednesday at 17:43 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:43 (edited) Pagers yesterday, walkie talkies today, what tomorrow? Tomy speak and spell machines?! As someone else said, quite impressive in how they've managed it, from a pure logistics point of view. Edited Wednesday at 17:44 by Xela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted Wednesday at 17:57 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:57 Alexa next. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bickster Posted Wednesday at 17:57 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted Wednesday at 17:57 13 minutes ago, Xela said: Pagers yesterday, walkie talkies today, what tomorrow? Tomy speak and spell machines?! As someone else said, quite impressive in how they've managed it, from a pure logistics point of view. I'd be worried if I were a pigeon 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_AA_786 Posted Wednesday at 17:57 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:57 14 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: Here we go again with the conspiracy theory that Israel “allowed” October 7th to happen. Nice way to make it the Jews fault for atrocities committed against them. I’ve never heard that one before. Let's have a chat about 9/11 being a CIA inside job, the moon landings were staged at Area 51, Elvis is still alive and we’re all being controlled by lizard people. Firstly, apologies if I wasn't clear enough or gave the impression it was a reference to October 7th. It wasn't intended that way. However, I made no assertion that anything was "Jews fault" or that the attack on October 7th was staged / allowed so i'm not sure why that response was prompted. Perhaps before making hasty assumptions it may be worthwhile to ask a few questions first, rather than responding in a sensitive manner - made particularly ironic when your username is "desensitized". That aside... It would be naïve to ignore the countless examples of right leaning or hard-lined politicians who have sought to draw attention to security concerns, immigration, crime or other such topics when approaching re-election as a means of seeking support. History has shown that Netanyahu has repeatedly hung on to power or propped up support by this same approach so taking a view that he'll cling on longer by deploying a tactic that has worked before, can't be too hard to imagine surely? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted Wednesday at 18:12 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:12 14 minutes ago, bickster said: I'd be worried if I were a pigeon The feathered shits have got it coming! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted Wednesday at 18:23 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:23 25 minutes ago, bickster said: I'd be worried if I were a pigeon Bird flu, now with explosive cough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor-Cal Villan Posted Wednesday at 18:26 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:26 3 minutes ago, sne said: Bird flu, now with explosive cough. Birds aren’t real 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted Wednesday at 18:50 Moderator Share Posted Wednesday at 18:50 52 minutes ago, bickster said: I'd be worried if I were a pigeon I'd be worried if you were a pigeon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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