Villan4Life Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, hippo said: Because in my opinion we have tried young progressive before with Garde and Sherwood - but then these are dismissed as not progressive. Yes, your opinion.. EDITED BY NV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted October 7, 2018 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 minute ago, hippo said: Is this the young progressive manager that eveyone has been crying out for ? - and if he bombs will those calling for young progressive - stop making such calls ? - Because in my opinion we have tried young progressive before with Garde and Sherwood - but then these are dismissed as not progressive. So is Henry project progressive ? - even if he fails ? Sherwood and Garde are 49 and 52 respectively. Klopp is younger than Garde. Unai Emery is younger than either of them, and he's already managed Sevilla, Spartak Moscow, Valencia, PSG and now Arsenal. I've seen a lot of your posts in this thread urging caution around a young coach, but what's the alternative? Apologise to Bruce and see if he'll come back? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) I want to see who our new defensive coach is. Boy will he have a job on his hands! Edited October 7, 2018 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 14 hours ago, Villan4Life said: Yes, your opinion.. "Get the best manager you can ?" Brendan Rodgers - how is that not constructive. None of know how good Henry will be - Im just saying (and I don't believe I am alone) that this isn't the right move for us Why do you think Henry will be good ? - because he was good player ? - so was Zola, Stamm, Keane, Bryan Robson, Paul Merson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westholmevillan Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Does anyone think that this was always the plan? Hence the reason why Henry (allegedly) turned down the Bordeaux job and Terry turned down the move to Russia? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, hippo said: "Get the best manager you can ?" Brendan Rodgers - how is that not constructive. None of know how good Henry will be - Im just saying (and I don't believe I am alone) that this isn't the right move for us Why do you think Henry will be good ? - because he was good player ? - so was Zola, Stamm, Keane, Bryan Robson, Paul Merson Sorry but this just reminds me of all the fans who use "We could have been Sunderland" when defending Bruce. For every Zola, Staam, Keane etc I am 1000 percent certain you can find a plethora of talented players who went on to become great managers. Edited October 7, 2018 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: Sherwood and Garde are 49 and 52 respectively. Klopp is younger than Garde. Unai Emery is younger than either of them, and he's already managed Sevilla, Spartak Moscow, Valencia, PSG and now Arsenal. I've seen a lot of your posts in this thread urging caution around a young coach, but what's the alternative? Apologise to Bruce and see if he'll come back? Lets think about that ? - We probably have the biggest fanbase in the division , are generally still seen as big club - there were 35k, watching Villa v Sheffield ? - Are you seriously suggesting there is no alternative to a guy who has never managed a team in his life ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 7, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, hippo said: Is this the young progressive manager that eveyone has been crying out for ? - and if he bombs will those calling for young progressive - stop making such calls ? - Because in my opinion we have tried young progressive before with Garde and Sherwood - but then these are dismissed as not progressive. So is Henry project progressive ? - even if he fails ? Rick Wakeman IN! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Seen nothing from Rodgers to state he is interested besides a daily star article and how much would it cost to get him out of Celtic? Can’t see it myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbdrum88 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 I've heard were looking at Mick McCarthy manager, John carver as assistant, Terry Connor head coach and iain dowie as director of football to usher us into our new era of success and world football domination. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Sorry but this just reminds me of all the fans who use "We could have been Sunderland" when defending Bruce. For every Zola, Staam, Keane etc I am 1000 percent certain you can find a plethora of talented players who went on to become great managers. No the poster prior said I never posted anything constructive - Ive have been saying all thread we go hell for leather and land the best manager we feasibly can - (constructive) - I said I would like to see Brendan Rodgers (constructive) Having answered the posters questions - I posed on of my own - Why do we think Henry will be so good ? - serious question - no hidden agenda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 14 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: For every Zola, Staam, Keane etc I am 1000 percent certain you can find a plethora of talented players who went on to become great managers. Zidane springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted October 7, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Rick Wakeman IN! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, hippo said: No the poster prior said I never posted anything constructive - Ive have been saying all thread we go hell for leather and land the best manager we feasibly can - (constructive) - I said I would like to see Brendan Rodgers (constructive) Having answered the posters questions - I posed on of my own - Why do we think Henry will be so good ? - serious question - no hidden agenda. I can’t speak for everybody - but then again many have already given their reasons - but for me it’s this. I have no idea whether he will be good. But I have no idea whether anyone would be. Weve seen time and again both here and elsewhere that you dont always get what you expect. A success at one place fails elsewhere and vice versa. And we’ve seen time and again untried gambles pay off, and fail. I just want us to try something that’s for us, that we take a lead on, that we risk things for, that we are the brave/bold/innovative player in the game. I want us to stop crouching around with Mcleishes, Bruce’s, MONs, and allllllllllllllllllllllll the rest, stop thinking so and so is laughing at us, so and sos fans will mock us, come out defiantly and with a touch of arrogance and say we are Aston Villa. We have money. We are Brave. We are Coming For You. We Are Back. So, that might make no sense. It will surely be mocked. But that’s my take. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 And, I genuinely think appointing one, or two, modern. Ex players just may be enlightening and successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted October 7, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 7, 2018 Just now, villa89 said: Zidane springs to mind. I don’t think the quality of player has an effect on how good they are as manager... there’s loads of examples either way good and bad. It’s just different people and being fitted to the job role, a bit of luck, and a bit of intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westholmevillan Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Someone go and have a look on JT's Instagram and see if he's left us a clue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Reports saying 2 mill per year salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 minute ago, terrytini said: I can’t speak for everybody - but then again many have already given their reasons - but for me it’s this. I have no idea whether he will be good. But I have no idea whether anyone would be. Weve seen time and again both here and elsewhere that you dont always get what you expect. A success at one place fails elsewhere and vice versa. And we’ve seen time and again untried gambles pay off, and fail. I just want us to try something that’s for us, that we take a lead on, that we risk things for, that we are the brave/bold/innovative player in the game. I want us to stop crouching around with Mcleishes, Bruce’s, MONs, and allllllllllllllllllllllll the rest, stop thinking so and so is laughing at us, so and sos fans will mock us, come out defiantly and with a touch of arrogance and say we are Aston Villa. We have money. We are Brave. We are Coming For You. We Are Back. So, that might make no sense. It will surely be mocked. But that’s my take. Excited by the unknown I suggest - I get that. But to me the two worst managers in recent times were Sherwood and Garde - both totally out of there depth at a big club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Reports saying 2 mill per year salary. FFP !!! - That must be close to a record for a first managerial job - especially in the championship Edited October 7, 2018 by hippo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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