Czechlad Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, Villaphan04 said: Somehow the Ukraine v Czech Republic game was on ESPN so I tuned in. Ukraine looked pretty decent and won their group (so i guess they have qualified for Euros or something?). Even with the hiccups that are showing and will become apparent, I like the way of trying to give lesser talented nations matches against similar ranked sides. Ukraine was by far and away the most organized nation in our group. Their defense was so difficult to break down. Schevchenko is doing a fantastic job there. Now we get to play our brother to see who gets relegated. Should be fun, but we managed to win in Bratislava so I like our odds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Czechlad said: Ukraine was by far and away the most organized nation in our group. Their defense was so difficult to break down. Schevchenko is doing a fantastic job there. Now we get to play our brother to see who gets relegated. Should be fun, but we managed to win in Bratislava so I like our odds. Czech were the better team as well vs Slovakia, seemed a bit more direct but could have won by a few more especially with Skrtel at back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Zatman said: They qualify for semi final against other group winners but will be promoted for next Nations Cup Ah okay thanks. So the winners from the each group in the respective 4 leagues are drawn into the Semi Finals against each the top teams from the other 3 groups? Interesting way of doing qualifying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, Villaphan04 said: Ah okay thanks. So the winners from the each group in the respective 4 leagues are drawn into the Semi Finals against each the top teams from the other 3 groups? Interesting way of doing qualifying yep the winner of each play off wins their league and qualifies for the euros and also gets promoted so they will be in league 1 next time* my issue with it is the playoffs are after the first couple of Euro qualifiers, spain and ukraine could win their league and be in the same euro qualifiers group, could skew the group in a weird way (in theory albeit unlikely all the winners could be in the same euros qualifying group) * if holland beat france at home or draw away to germany then germany are relegated, iceland are already done, looks like poland and croatia too** ** england are going to sit in 2nd place in division 1 forever in this arent they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, villa4europe said: my issue with it is the playoffs are after the first couple of Euro qualifiers, spain and ukraine could win their league and be in the same euro qualifiers group, could skew the group in a weird way (in theory albeit unlikely all the winners could be in the same euros qualifying group) Was an article today saying Ireland could lose all qualifiers and still qualify for 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 http://www.the42.ie/nations-league-permutations-4290985-Oct2018/ LAST NIGHT’S LOSS to Wales has left Ireland almost assured of relegation in their Nations League group. Denmark now just need a point in their final two games against either Wales or Ireland to ensure the Boys in Green are consigned to bottom place and relegation to League C. It also means Ireland are set to be third seeds for the Euro 2020 qualifying draw in December. Below is a look at how the seedings work… UNL Pot: The four teams who qualify for the Nations League finals (i.e. the winners of each group in League A (see teams below). Pot 1: Teams 5-10 in the overall Nations League rankings Pot 2: Teams 11–20 in the overall Nations League overall rankings Pot 3: Teams 21–30 in Nations League overall rankings Pot 4: Teams 31–40 in Nations League overall rankings Pot 5: Teams 41–50 in Nations League overall rankings Pot 6: Teams 51–55 in Nations League overall rankings As it stands, the a selection of the overall rankings are as follows (note that group position trumps points in terms of the overall ranking): League A teams: 1. France (7 points) 2. Spain (6 points) 3. Belgium (6 points) 4. Portugal (6 points) 5. Switzerland (6 points) 6. England (4 points) 7. Italy (4 points). 8. Netherlands (3 points). 9. Poland (1 point). 10. Germany (1 point) 11. Croatia (1 point) 12. Iceland (0 points). League B teams: 13. Bosnia and Herzegovina (9 points) 14. Ukraine (9 points) 15. Russia (7 points) 16. Wales (6 points) 17. Denmark (4 points) 18. Austria (3 points) 19. Czech Republic (3 points) 20. Turkey (3 points). 21. Sweden (1 point) 22. Ireland (1 point) 23. Slovakia (0 points) 24. Northern Ireland (0 points). Here’s a tweet outlining in full a breakdown of the pots based on Nations League performances as things stand… So given that they are 22nd currently, Ireland are due to go into Pot 3 for the Euro 2020 qualifying, along with the other ’21-30′ ranked teams, The play-offs So what happens from there? There are 10 Euro 2020 qualifying groups. The teams who finish in the top two in each group qualify automatically. These will account for 20 of the 24 teams that will qualify for the tournament. The remaining four spots will be decided by a series of Nations League play-offs. Theoretically, the teams that qualify automatically for Euro 2020 could be anyone. But in reality, they are likely to be mainly teams near the top end of the Nations League. The play-offs for the four remaining Euro 2020 spots will feature 16 teams that have not qualified automatically. The Nations League group winners will qualify automatically for this stage. However, if a group winner has already qualified, they will be replaced by the next-best ranked team in the same league. Four teams from each league will compete in the play-offs (though this might not be possible in some cases, e.g. if more than eight teams from League A qualify automatically for the Euros). The group winners in each league qualify automatically, but will be discounted if they have already qualified for the Euros through the normal route. The same then applies to the second-place teams. So there are eight spots reserved in the play-offs for teams in League A and B. Let’s hypothetically assume the rankings stay as they are currently. If France, Spain, Belgium, Portugal, Switzerland, England, Italy, Netherlands, Poland, Germany, Croatia, Iceland, Denmark and Wales qualify via the normal route, Ireland will be one of the eight sides who advance to the play-offs regardless of how they perform in the Euro 2020 group qualifiers. If the situation got worse and Ireland slipped below Slovakia and Northern Ireland in the overall rankings, they could still qualify if, for example, Czech Republic and Turkey qualify via the normal route in addition to the aforementioned teams. So basically, assuming Ireland lose all their Euro 2020 qualifiers and also finish 24th (the lowest they can possibly finish in the overall Nations League rankings), they will still advance to the Nations League play-offs if 16 teams above them in the overall Nations League rankings qualify for the Euros via the normal route. If Ireland finish in their current overall position of 22nd, they would still qualify for the play-offs if 14 of the teams ranked above them qualify automatically for the Euros. They could yet finish slightly higher in the overall rankings, which is why even next month’s clash with Denmark should not be written off as a complete ‘dead rubber,’ even though Ireland will more than likely finish bottom of their group regardless of that match’s outcome — a win in Copenhagen could conceivably be the difference between advancing to the Nations League play-offs and missing out on Euro 2020. So what do these play-offs actually involve? The 16 teams involved in the play-offs will be divided into four paths with one qualifying spot awarded to the team who prevails in each of these paths. The 12 matches will take place between 26 and 31 March, 2020. In each of these paths, there will be semi-finals and a final. In the semis, the best-ranked team will face the fourth best-ranked team and the second best-ranked team will face the third best-ranked team. Nations League group winners cannot face teams from a higher league, so for example, assuming someone like Georgia top their Nations League group and fail to qualify automatically for the Euros, they are likely to have an easier pathway in the play-offs than a team like Ireland would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 So how does this work for the euros qualifying? My country will likely finish 2nd in the 2nd tier, so I have no idea what that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Czechlad said: So how does this work for the euros qualifying? My country will likely finish 2nd in the 2nd tier, so I have no idea what that means. It means you will be in pot 2 instead of pot 3 which relegated teams will go from 2nd tier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 17/10/2018 at 21:46, villa4europe said: http://www.the42.ie/nations-league-permutations-4290985-Oct2018/ Well, that's intuitive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 19, 2018 Moderator Share Posted October 19, 2018 Every time someone mentions the Nations League. Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Sorry couldn't find a thread on this So the first semi final is tonight, Portugal v Switzerland and England play Netherlands tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Anyone else watching this tonight? if so, is anyone elses Sky audio ahead of its video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 18,000 england fans expected in attendance, the Dutch and the Swiss expected to take 5,000 each England vs Holland on paper is a great game, not sure which england will turn up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 What a goal Ronaldo! Both teams are really going for it, enjoying this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Junxs said: What a goal Ronaldo! Both teams are really going for it, enjoying this game. Was never a free kick and not sure what the keeper was doing to be fair. Switzerland have started the better team but haven’t taken their chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted June 5, 2019 Administrator Share Posted June 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, Junxs said: Sorry couldn't find a thread on this So the first semi final is tonight, Portugal v Switzerland and England play Netherlands tomorrow I'm not sure where you looked, but I typed "nations league" into the search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, limpid said: I'm not sure where you looked, but I typed "nations league" into the search. I had the same issue the other day with the villa park redevelopment thread, my search doesn't work properly then it seems 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 On 19/10/2018 at 14:36, BOF said: Every time someone mentions the Nations League. Hide contents Better than the meaningless friendlies its replaced with 8 subs every game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC_Hitz Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 That VAR decision was ridiculous. He quite clearly kicked his own leg and fell over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 How on earth was that a penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts