DCJonah Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: He wasn't awful at all. He made one huge mistake. Absolutely. But he was actually fine, he just isn't very attacking so the game suited Hourihane when he cam eon instead. I think he has been decent for us this year, but he was well below par IMO on that day. And gifting a goal the way he did is unacceptable in such a huge game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 26, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2019 Just now, DCJonah said: And gifting a goal the way he did is unacceptable in such a huge game. Yep it is. But it was an uncharacteristic error. I highly doubt he'll do that again in the final and I think leaving a player out just because they made one mistake would be a mistake in itself. If he gets left out, which is entirely possible. I doubt that error will have anything to do with the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I actually don't think that is true at all. But each to their own. I am being picky, because, I do like him.....I don't know who he will run with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 24 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Yep it is. But it was an uncharacteristic error. I highly doubt he'll do that again in the final and I think leaving a player out just because they made one mistake would be a mistake in itself. If he gets left out, which is entirely possible. I doubt that error will have anything to do with the decision. It's not uncharacteristic. I'd say these ridiculous blunders have been a constant in his time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 26, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2019 1 minute ago, VillaJ100 said: It's not uncharacteristic. I'd say these ridiculous blunders have been a constant in his time here. You're entitled to your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 41 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said: It's not uncharacteristic. I'd say these ridiculous blunders have been a constant in his time here. I agree he has that error in him. We hadn’t seen it since the blues game though and he has been playing well. I think he struggles against players that press at times. He needs to stay switched on if he starts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Majority of our players have an error in them, that’s why they are in the championship and not already in the prem. I agree that whelan can struggle when a team is pressing, I don’t really remember the games against derby earlier in the season but I don’t recall them being great at pressing. Personally I think Whelan has a very good football brain, and it shows when we are playing well. He gives McGinn and Grealish more freedom to go forward and also allows the centre backs to step out of defence. Yes Conor offers more offensively, but personally I think we play better with Whelan in the side and let’s not forget who got the assist for Jacks volley last time we played Derby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 45 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I agree he has that error in him. We hadn’t seen it since the blues game though and he has been playing well. I think he struggles against players that press at times. He needs to stay switched on if he starts. I do too.....and there is more than just him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Majority of our players have an error in them, that’s why they are in the championship and not already in the prem. I agree that whelan can struggle when a team is pressing, I don’t really remember the games against derby earlier in the season but I don’t recall them being great at pressing. Personally I think Whelan has a very good football brain, and it shows when we are playing well. He gives McGinn and Grealish more freedom to go forward and also allows the centre backs to step out of defence. Yes Conor offers more offensively, but personally I think we play better with Whelan in the side and let’s not forget who got the assist for Jacks volley last time we played Derby that's one of the reasons, we have a chance. Edited May 26, 2019 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 3 hours ago, DCJonah said: I'd rather derby worry about how to stop us. Hourihane adds another player they need to worry about. I'm sure Derby will be worrying about stopping a few of our payers I just think it would be a bit naive to just disregard mounts ability and play all our attacking midfielders. Whelan will start I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 DCM is the most important position on the pitch for me. We should play the person who is best suited to that position, whcih is Whelan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted May 26, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, commander said: DCM is the most important position on the pitch for me. We should play the person who is best suited to that position, whcih is Whelan. And drop Hourihane who has scored 3 times against Derby this season,? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 28 minutes ago, tinker said: And drop Hourihane who has scored 3 times against Derby this season,? Yes. Hourihane has scored more than McGinn and Jack, you want to drop one of them for him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Yes. Hourihane has scored more than McGinn and Jack, you want to drop one of them for him? Would you drop any of them for Whelan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted May 26, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Yes. Hourihane has scored more than McGinn and Jack, you want to drop one of them for him? No just Whelan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 1 hour ago, commander said: DCM is the most important position on the pitch for me. We should play the person who is best suited to that position, whcih is Whelan. ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted May 26, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2019 1 hour ago, TRO said: ditto. And that's exactly what Steve Bruce would have thought...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 26, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, tinker said: And that's exactly what Steve Bruce would have thought...... But Whelan has been Smith’s first choice for most of his time here. People are talking like Whelan is never in the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted May 26, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2019 43 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: But Whelan has been Smith’s first choice for most of his time here. People are talking like Whelan is never in the side. He nearly cost us dear against the baggies , not just in the misplaced pass but his positional play after. He pushed far to high up the pitch which left Grealish covering him further down the pitch. If we play Whelan then we invite Derby onto us , they will not play a defensive player to nullify his attacking threat. They will play a more offensive player. Hourihane on the other hand is a very difficult player to cover and I think they will be more defensive if he plays. My nerves are now running at 10000rpm and if I'm honest, as long as we win I don't care who he plays. I know we should win and that's my problem ,UTV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 26, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, tinker said: He nearly cost us dear against the baggies , not just in the misplaced pass but his positional play after. He pushed far to high up the pitch which left Grealish covering him further down the pitch. If we play Whelan then we invite Derby onto us , they will not play a defensive player to nullify his attacking threat. They will play a more offensive player. Hourihane on the other hand is a very difficult player to cover and I think they will be more defensive if he plays. My nerves are now running at 10000rpm and if I'm honest, as long as we win I don't care who he plays. I know we should win and that's my problem ,UTV How did we beat them 4-0 with Whelan starting then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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