mykeyb Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: I think the answers to those questions are Theresa, Theresa and Theresa. So much egg on face. The back benchers will be absolutely fuming. You see i dont, I really dont see her saying lets try and extend our power and our term by another 18 months by holding a snap election, they had a working functioning government, they had aleast another 3 years to drive Brexit through and come out the other side with or without another election but the downside was losing power completely, losing power figuratively and for her ending her career at the top table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xela Posted June 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, darrenm said: If Abbott does the exact the thing as a number of other MPs, yet Abbott is the constant source of the joke and others aren't, what's the reason? Could it be sexist, racist, a combination of the 2, or something else I've missed? Because she has been a car crash of a politician for as long as anyone can remember and every faux pas just compounds things? Its not as though other politicians get an easy ride is it? Is May only getting abuse because she's a woman? Did Gove only get abuse because he looks like a muppet? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mykeyb said: You see i dont, I really dont see her saying lets try and extend our power and our term by another 18 months by holding a snap election, they had a working functioning government, they had aleast another 3 years to drive Brexit through and come out the other side with or without another election but the downside was losing power completely, losing power figuratively and for her ending her career at the top table. I also read somewhere why she went for an early election - its thats its all downhill from here, what the Tory's parties reputation be when brexit is actually implemented. The ecomomic cloudstorms are already swirling with inflation on this rise for example. Edited June 9, 2017 by hippo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Jah bless da yout' dem, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: ermm didn't you like my post last night when I did an Abbott counting gag ? (well ok you'd run out of likes , but your post implied it would have been forthcoming) She's was just lasts weeks figure of fun as far as I could see , that she's not overly liked by a lot of people ( partly legacy , partly her own comments ) has just meant the meme has gone on a bit longer , plus the fact she then re-appeared just as everyone had forgotten and did the policy equivalent of Redwood singing the Welsh national anthem next week it will be some over politicians turn ... May's almost certainly , her skin colour is irrelevant , imo of course Just asking. Yes, I was trying to use inclusive language of likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 i've warmed to Corbyn during this campaign but is there another 60 seats out there for Labour to win? If so, how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Shes got crap tits as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dAVe80 Posted June 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Xela said: i've warmed to Corbyn during this campaign but is there another 60 seats out there for Labour to win? If so, how? Let Theresa May stay on as PM? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, dAVe80 said: Let Theresa May stay on as PM? I'd say get rid of Abbott but don't want to appear racist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 20 minutes ago, darrenm said: Anyone have any idea what this is about? No. Interesting that he's also reporting that there has been no deal with the DUP and so it's a minority Tory government. Probably the case that May hasn't spoken to anyone other than the close few around her (those that advised her to call the snap election and so on) and the Queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver50032 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, Xela said: Because she has been a car crash of a politician for as long as anyone can remember and every faux pas just compounds things? Its not as though other politicians get an easy ride is it? Is May only getting abuse because she's a woman? Did Gove only get abuse because he looks like a muppet? It is kind of true that... Abbot is flavour of the month for mockery just now. To not mock her political shortcomings when the likes of May, Milliband, Corbyn, Major, Cameron, Blair etc are similarly treated in similar fashion when the topic is topical, just because she is female... and black would be discriminatory. To 'use the two boxes that she ticks' as a reason not to mock her failings is just as discriminatory as mocking the 'male, pale and stale' rhetoric we've heard over the last 18 months. XXXX me, even May has openly mocked Corbyn in the Commons. She even besmirched him by pulling a face when she described him a day before the election. She even tried to get the voters to consider him 'naked.' It a male MP had said anything remotely similar, he'd be frogmarched to the resignation paperwork. The truth of the matter is, Abbott SHOULD be able to teach Corbyn maths, because, as a female, she will have done well at school. Unlike us males who the media will portray as underachieving, drooling numpties. Just seen... even the DUP seems to be led by a female... and has a female MP. So hardly 'anti-female' per se. Though the anti homosexual bit, and the anti-abortion bit will rankle in mainstream Britain. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Quote Hi [INSERT MP’S NAME HERE], As one of your constituents, I'm writing to you to express my outrage at the suggestion that your party is prepared to cooperate with the DUP in order to remain in government. I know that this election result was surprising for all of us, and there is no clear or easy solution without an outright majority for any one party, but I am shocked and appalled that the Conservatives are willing to partner with a party that holds such extreme views that are damaging to so many people. For instance, despite many absences on your voting record, it shows that you generally support equal rights for the LGBT community, on issues such as same sex marriage amongst others [CHECK THIS HERE: https://www.theyworkforyou.com ]. Here is a list of DUP stances, in case you need a reminder: The DUP want to make it legal to discriminate against anyone from the LGBT community The DUP want children to be taught creationism as scientific fact The DUP want no woman to have access to any type of abortion, and furthermore criminalise anyone offering or seeking that service The DUP want to bring back the death penalty There are many other issues with the DUP, and I am also concerned as to what this alliance would mean for so many Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland citizens (our close allies), especially when entering Brexit negotiations. Please explain how you intend to oppose this coalition, as it is of immediate concern to myself and many of your constituents. Thanks, [YOUR NAME HERE] Google Docs - "Wow, this file is really popular! Some tools might be unavailable until the crowd clears". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, snowychap said: No. Interesting that he's also reporting that there has been no deal with the DUP and so it's a minority Tory government. Probably the case that May hasn't spoken to anyone other than the close few around her (those that advised her to call the snap election and so on) and the Queen. Yep basically they have agreed to keep Corbyn out. Nothing more than that. - So any Tory who fancies becoming leader can still have his\her chance. In Theory she can sit there for 5 years but she's going to get the piss taken over every move she makes, day in , day out. If I were her having got that deal in place I would resign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Labour make gains - That's good! Tories still in control - That's bad! May will probably leave - That's good! Boris favourite to come in - That's bad! UKIP basically wiped out - That's good! Farage feels he needs to come back - That's bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 34 minutes ago, magnkarl said: I agree that Canterbury is a bit of a weird one. However it's a uni town with a big younger population, so if you look at the demographics it's not that weird. I have no answer as to how to swing the tide in an area like Hampshire other than keeping up the good work that Corbyn did at being more mainstream. People down here are put off by extremes, which is why Theresa May has seen a lot of loss of support too. Hell even the most conservative friend I know who owns a big farm outside Alton spoke warmly about Corbyn the other day. Times they are a changin'. I was reading somewhere that rich older grandparent types in the Home Counties were more likely to vote for Corbyn than they had been for Labour in the past . . . I can't remember the exact argument, but it was something like the dementia tax, plus feeling that their grandkids would be better off without student debt, and that this had mellowed out some of the anti-Corbyn types. It is notable that Labour had good swings in the South East and South West - normally pretty barren ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 A cold, cold winter could help in terms of demographics in some close seats. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver50032 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: A cold, cold winter could help in terms of demographics in some close seats. Are you IDS??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 19 minutes ago, mykeyb said: You see i dont, I really dont see her saying lets try and extend our power and our term by another 18 months by holding a snap election, they had a working functioning government, they had aleast another 3 years to drive Brexit through and come out the other side with or without another election but the downside was losing power completely, losing power figuratively and for her ending her career at the top table. I think it's exactly what happened. To be fair, calling a snap election isn't really the biggest mistake. She did inherit the PM role and going into Brexit negotiations with a personal mandate instead is a reasonable thing to do, and obviously doing it when the polls were so favourable would kill two birds with one stone. Somehow she seems to have got some God complex and thought that normal campaigning practice didn't really apply to her and my word has she buggered it up. Trying to create some sort of cult of personality when she basically has no personality, being lazy, ill-tempered, giving absolutely nothing positive in the manifesto (even George Osborne would always chuck in the odd freebie when he was blasting people in the ass). There is no way that manifesto was discussed by the whole cabinet. Losing the majority is all on her. Credit to Corbyn too, obviously. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 9, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted June 9, 2017 Sent that email to Fabricant. He has a strong record on LGBT rights to be fair to him, and although he's a Tory rocket polisher, he's a decent local MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, sharkyvilla said: She did inherit the PM role I basically agree with a lot of your post, but I must stress that she didn't 'inherit' this - this is her job and she very much wanted it. No sympathy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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