a m ole Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 So Farron got all the digs in on the Conservatives and May, while Corbyn stayed measured and didn't have to give the cheap shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, Warnock said: Let's make up some easy policies to persuade the young to vote for us like extra bank holidays and abandoning their tuition fees, and in the hope of getting in we can lower the voting age to brainwash those who are 16 too. Let's destroy the welfare state, living conditions, social care, school funding and the NHS, and maybe more people will die so we, the Tories, can give more to the rich. Oh and let's have foxes ripped to shreds for sport too. I know what i'd prefer out of your statement and mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 23 minutes ago, darrenm said: Everyone keeps telling me the BBC aren't biased. The audience was apparently a standard split selected from independent pollers. Perhaps they were undecided when selected and have since gone to Labour? Or perhaps the Tories in the audience are too embarrassed by the absence of their leader to make a noise? And Labour voters feel part of a movement? I think it probably was an even split, Labour/ABTs are obviously going to cheer and jeer a lot. I mean, the silent majority and shy Tory get their name for a reason. I'm just surprised they allowed the audience to make any noise, I think they are barred from doing it in the US debates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 30 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: The Sun (spit) but biased the other way for a source. Oh? And Rudd's father passed away only 2 days ago, and Theresa May still can't be bothered to show up? Utterly contemptible, vile word removed. I agree. Based on this news credit to rudd. Bloody hell may you vile human being Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted May 31, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2017 Things I learned; Amber Rudd has never played Monopoly Leanne Wood could hear a pin drop in a...er... Wood and Fallon is complete stroker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 For me the big story of the night is not a single that was said, but the fact the Prime Minister and leader of the Conservative Party didn't turn out. And I think that'll be the one thing that sticks in the minds of many voters and the longer lasting narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Her father died day before yesterday? What were the other big hitters doing? The Zero Degrees Kelvin Party. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, Xann said: What were the other big hitters doing? Meeting Real People. In private settings. After telling them what they could and couldn't say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted May 31, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2017 44 minutes ago, Awol said: I thought May had been very cowardly not doing this but in light of the audience I don't blame her. Pretty clear the BBC decided not to try and put together a balanced group which was leftie as you like on the night. The audience was put together by an independent body and deliberately structured to mirror the voting preferences of the general public. What it shows I think is how far apart the public and the mainstream press are - something representative of the voting public feels left wing because the media message in the newspapers is so right wing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 For me caroline lucas is the only one that looks like a prime minister to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: For me caroline lucas is the only one that looks like a prime minister to me. Hahahahaha! Christ. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: The audience was put together by an independent body and deliberately structured to mirror the voting preferences of the general public. What it shows I think is how far apart the public and the mainstream press are - something representative of the voting public feels left wing because the media message in the newspapers is so right wing. If you're right then Labour will walk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PompeyVillan Posted May 31, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Warnock said: Let's make up some easy policies to persuade the young to vote for us like extra bank holidays and abandoning their tuition fees, and in the hope of getting in we can lower the voting age to brainwash those who are 16 too. Replace "easy" with "appealing" and "brainwash" with "empower". It's an odd criticism given we've been bribing the elderly for generations to the detriment of the youth. Edited May 31, 2017 by PompeyVillan 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post peterms Posted May 31, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2017 40 minutes ago, Awol said: Not me, the BBC are institutionally left wing by their own admission - or at least 'liberal, metropolitan progressives' which is basically the same thing. Maybe what appeared to be an audience that was about 80% Labour is a standard split and JC is about to roll into Downing St on a wave of popular acclaim. We'll see. The BBC claimed to have a balanced audience for their EU ref debate, Farage called them out on it during the programme and was later proven right. I'm sure Labour voters do feel like part of a movement, PIRA, Shining Path, Momentum, they all have much in common. The Beeb are and always have been about programming (however you want to take that word) for the upper middle classes who reside in Woking and Dorking and Chipping Middleyebrow, and those who either identify with them from a distance or aspire to join their diminishing ranks. Your last para is frankly barking. I suppose it's just there for effect, rather than a cry for help. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, Awol said: If you're right then Labour will walk it. I'm not so sure. There were almost certainly tories sat there too ashamed to publicly acknowledge what they're voting for, but their mark on the ballot paper counts just as much as a cheering and jeering lefty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 1 minute ago, peterms said: Your last para is frankly barking. I suppose it's just there for effect, rather than a cry for help. Comedy effect, not a request for medication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Just now, Awol said: Comedy effect, not a request for medication. Excellent, I was getting worried for a moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 27 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: I think it probably was an even split, Labour/ABTs are obviously going to cheer and jeer a lot. I mean, the silent majority and shy Tory get their name for a reason. I'm just surprised they allowed the audience to make any noise, I think they are barred from doing it in the US debates. I think you're right in your overall point, but the "silent majority" and. "shy Tory" aren't people that tell a polling company that they're voting Conservative and then turn up to a televised leaders' debate to be a representative of that side's demographic. They're the exact opposite of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 15 minutes ago, Risso said: Hahahahaha! Christ. Who was better in your view Mart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted May 31, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2017 14 minutes ago, Awol said: If you're right then Labour will walk it. Would that it were! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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