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Just looking at people from work and people in my circle of friends on Facebook, a tiny percentage are openly voting labour. I feel it will be the whitewash mentioned when the election was announced.

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9 minutes ago, Seat68 said:

Just looking at people from work and people in my circle of friends on Facebook, a tiny percentage are openly voting labour. I feel it will be the whitewash mentioned when the election was announced.

Absolute opposite for me re.FB. I seem to have around 90% of friends voting for Labour and then one or two for that other lot.

Heartening in some ways, but unfortunately it does mean i'll have a lot of unhappy friends over the next couple of days (barring a miracle).

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I hate our system.

I can't want the words removed I HATE in the Labour party to lose (Jess Phillips, Kate Hoey), because if they do, it increases the Tory majority.

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23 minutes ago, blandy said:

That's nonsense on all counts.

1. UKIPs might be horrible, but they're not "BNP under a new name".

2. BNP doesn't have any vote. When it did it was mostly poor, uneducated, underpriveleged racists  that voted for them. People who at various times might have not voted, voted Tory (back in Thatcher's day) or voted Labour. Not traditional Labour supporters.

3. UKIP have a small number of policies that are left of some tory policies, but overall UKIPs tends towards the exact same views and ideas as the tory extremists.

hey , this thread is full of nonsense , just keeping with the theme

1) guess you don't read these threads (insert your own Diane Abbot joke here ) where we were constantly told UKIP was the racist party and even phrased as BNP Lite

2) has been done to death countless times before without agreement so I'll focus on 3  ..

3) people doing those political surveys have been coming up with data that shows them agreeing with Labour , SNP , Greens & UKIP in various %'s ( and somehow not agreeing with the conservatives on anything / low %'s  )  

The UKIP % has been surprisingly high in some cases , indeed people have even commented on it  ... either they are skewing their results so that they deliberately don't pick any they believe to be Tory  and thus select a UKIP one inadvertently  , they are lying about their scores (seems unlikely)  , or indeed the policies they've been agreeing with are aligned , hence some UKIP policy is more in sync with Labour than the left like to admit ....

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47 minutes ago, Nicho said:

I have hope and fear for tomorrow and Friday. 

I am buoyed by the Labour resurgence and complete fear that too many people still read the Daily Mail and are completely blind to the Conservatives.

What resurgence ?

Sure JC has spoke at well attended rally's  - But the vote surge just hasn't happened (or doesn't look like it will) - A minor narrowing of the polls - and some selective polls have made the headlines - but the polls reporting a tory lead of 7-12% are going unnoticed.

I expect a Tory majority of 60 - I wouldn't totally rule out it being over 100.  Corbyn might claim a moral victory if he increases his share of the vote (but the low showing of ukip and lib dems account for some of that) - But a moral victory won't get you treated at a NHS hospital, get potholes in roads repaired, provide textbooks for teachers and schools.

Bottom line if the Tories increase the majority of 17 - Corbyn should resign pronto.  May has had a disastrous campaign, Theres no party to split the anti tory vote - Yet the tories are still doing better than last time out - poor showing from Labour.

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8 minutes ago, tonyh29 said:

hey , this thread is full of nonsense , just keeping with the theme

1) guess you don't read these threads (insert your own Diane Abbot joke here ) where we were constantly told UKIP was the racist party and even phrased as BNP Lite

2) has been done to death countless times before without agreement so I'll focus on 3  ..

3) people doing those political surveys have been coming up with data that shows them agreeing with Labour , SNP , Greens & UKIP in various %'s ( and somehow not agreeing with the conservatives on anything / low %'s  )  

The UKIP % has been surprisingly high in some cases , indeed people have even commented on it  ... either they are skewing their results so that they deliberately don't pick any they believe to be Tory  and thus select a UKIP one inadvertently  , they are lying about their scores (seems unlikely)  , or indeed the policies they've been agreeing with are aligned , hence some UKIP policy is more in sync with Labour than the left like to admit ....

What UKIP policy is in sync with Labour ? 

 

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39 minutes ago, Designer1 said:

but unfortunately it does mean i'll have a lot of unhappy friends over the next couple of days (barring a miracle).

It's possible you won't.  By which I mean Labour is the cool thing to say, but those people will actually vote tory when they're standing in the booth if they're doing alright for themselves at present.  I also hope I'm wrong.

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1 minute ago, colhint said:

Why has he appointed Lyn Brown? Didn't she resign last year over him being leader.

Because he recognises that the party is bigger than him?

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Diane Abbott ill.  Russia fed up with Corbyn letting her ruining his campaign. Probably slipped something in her tea.

Damn Ruskies, that's why I only drink grain alcohol and rain water. 

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37 minutes ago, hippo said:

Sure JC has spoke at well attended rally's  

as I read it , they've been rallys in safe seats where Labour weren't likely to lose , the strategy seems to be show him being popular and hope it rubs off on the TV snippets  , rather than targeting the marginals directly ...Interesting as Cameron seemed to pull the rabbit out that hat with the opposite strategy and targeting the marginals

 

all will be revealed tomorrow night I guess

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I believe Corbyn actually has done a fair amount in marginals, but not much big rally stuff.

Unlike May, who seemed to specialise in being ignored on doorsteps and trying to make crowds out of a handful of people through conveniently angled photography.

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