magnkarl Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 (edited) Did the f16 ever engage its contemporary Russian variants in combat? It’d be good to put the Russian warplane industry to bed once and for all with some footage of Ukrainian f16s shooting down some Su35s. I wonder if Russia even has the quantity of Su35s to attempt it, as they haven’t really shone against old Soviet jets so far. Kerch bridge must be a very near future target. Edited August 25 by magnkarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 25 VT Supporter Share Posted August 25 3 hours ago, villa89 said: At least it will hide the skid marks inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 6 hours ago, magnkarl said: Did the f16 ever engage its contemporary Russian variants in combat? It’d be good to put the Russian warplane industry to bed once and for all with some footage of Ukrainian f16s shooting down some Su35s. I wonder if Russia even has the quantity of Su35s to attempt it, as they haven’t really shone against old Soviet jets so far. Kerch bridge must be a very near future target. Ukraine doesn’t have the quantity of F16s to attempt it. They only have six of them and are not going to risk any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 1 hour ago, LondonLax said: Ukraine doesn’t have the quantity of F16s to attempt it. They only have six of them and are not going to risk any of them. For now, they’ll have about 50 or so once deliveries are complete. Mirage at some point too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 26 VT Supporter Share Posted August 26 3 hours ago, magnkarl said: For now, they’ll have about 50 or so once deliveries are complete. Mirage at some point too. Nah, they'll be real mate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Ukraine getting bombard right now, including Kyiv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted August 26 Administrator Share Posted August 26 43 minutes ago, sidcow said: Nah, they'll be real mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, LondonLax said: Ukraine getting bombard right now, including Kyiv. I just don't get this. Russia bombs cities = the West sends more kit. Last time they bombed that children's hospital deliveries ramped up. These missiles could be used militarily in Kursk as they're quite accurate, yet Russia uses them to hit apartments and hospitals. Edited August 26 by magnkarl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Meanwhile Koronevo along with its several thousand mostly conscript garrison is under operational encirclement. All going to plan, eh Vlad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 1 hour ago, magnkarl said: I just don't get this. Russia bombs cities = the West sends more kit. Last time they bombed that children's hospital deliveries ramped up. These missiles could be used militarily in Kursk as they're quite accurate, yet Russia uses them to hit apartments and hospitals. “someone else’s” apartments and hospitals is the reason I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Loads of people in this thread don’t even like Russia. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 27 minutes ago, villa89 said: I thought they had moved their fleet out of the black sea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 10 hours ago, magnkarl said: I just don't get this. Russia bombs cities = the West sends more kit. Last time they bombed that children's hospital deliveries ramped up. These missiles could be used militarily in Kursk as they're quite accurate, yet Russia uses them to hit apartments and hospitals. It was another attack on the Ukrainian power network. Unsure if that was the primary target or not, but some parts of it were definitely hit. Ukraine is really going to struggle if its a cold winter because they've lost so much of their power generation over the last couple of years. Sadly it doesn't seem like it's as simple to fix as just running a wire over to Poland and tapping the EU power network to keep themselves warm, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 18 minutes ago, Mozzavfc said: I thought they had moved their fleet out of the black sea? AFAIK They can't move anything out of the Black sea, Turkey control the entrance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 11 hours ago, magnkarl said: I just don't get this. Russia bombs cities = the West sends more kit. Do they? Seems to me like the west isn't doing enough. Russia committing war crime after war crime. How long does it take to do something about it? Like a no fly zone for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 26 Moderator Share Posted August 26 49 minutes ago, villa89 said: AFAIK They can't move anything out of the Black sea, Turkey control the entrance. Yeah they can, ships with a home port in the Black Sea can move through the canal, what can’t happen in times of war is Russia bringing in ships with home ports not in the Black Sea. So they can’t replace ships they’ve lost from their other fleets. The BSF still exists but it has moved out of Sevastopol where it was too easy to attack (Even the BSF HQ was attacked by missiles). What is left of the fleet is now based in Novorossiysk which is relatively safe distance wise from missile attack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) It took Russia 15 years to build this oil facility, in one week Ukraine took it out with two drones. This is what wins Ukraine the war, along with those new rocket drones. Push Russian air power back with the new drones and keep hitting their oil facilities. Edited August 27 by magnkarl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 26 minutes ago, magnkarl said: It took Russia 15 years to build this oil facility, in one week Ukraine took it out with two drones. This is what wins Ukraine the war, along with those new rocket drones. Push Russian air power back with the new drones and keep hitting their oil facilities. I think they need to do more damage inside Russia than they are at the moment. Take out more bridges, train tracks, electricity substations. They also need air superiority and probably NATO support for air defences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 13 hours ago, villa89 said: They tried to destroy the dam holding water just outside Kyiv. It would have flooded part of Kyiv if they had managed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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