Anthony Posted August 21 VT Supporter Share Posted August 21 Zarina Zabriski is doing some good stuff that other media don't deem newsworthy, specifically Russian drones hunting civilians in Kherson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 21 Moderator Share Posted August 21 1 hour ago, magnkarl said: And Libya.. Libya was slightly different though, there was a UN resolution so it was effectively a UN action led by NATO. It also included non-NATO countries like Qatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted August 21 Moderator Share Posted August 21 29 minutes ago, bickster said: Libya was slightly different though, there was a UN resolution so it was effectively a UN action led by NATO. It also included non-NATO countries like Qatar NATO also got involved in Bosnia. To be honest, the difference with Bosnia and with Serbia, compared to Ukraine, is simply that it's Russia doing the bad things, and Russia is much more powerful than Serbia or B&H armed forces. Nukes and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 13 hours ago, blandy said: NATO also got involved in Bosnia. To be honest, the difference with Bosnia and with Serbia, compared to Ukraine, is simply that it's Russia doing the bad things, and Russia is much more powerful than Serbia or B&H armed forces. Nukes and stuff. The nukes and infamous red lines. Ukraine just burst through another.. I'm starting to think that China and India is holding Putin's ear on the nuke thing to a much larger extent than we think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Another two airfields in Russia hit last night. One massive glide bomb depot in Volgograd. Ukraine going after Russia's main successful weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, magnkarl said: Another two airfields in Russia hit last night. One massive glide bomb depot in Volgograd. Ukraine going after Russia's main successful weapon. It really needed to happen. Russia bombing hospitals, schools, shops and power stations whilst their own infrastructure remained off-limits, no way. Edited August 22 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 37 minutes ago, Genie said: It really needed to happen. Ukraine bombing hospitals, schools, shops and power stations whilst their own infrastructure remained off-limits, no way. You mean Russia I presume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, magnkarl said: The nukes and infamous red lines. Ukraine just burst through another.. I'm starting to think that China and India is holding Putin's ear on the nuke thing to a much larger extent than we think. Putin knows what the consequences would be if he used a nuke. He isn't stupid. That's why he's never going to use one, ever. He doesn't need China or India to tell him it's a bad idea. All his talk is just posturing to try to stop support for Ukraine and strike fear of "escalation". It's worked. Edited August 22 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 23 minutes ago, magnkarl said: You mean Russia I presume? Yes, apologies. Corrected now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Dont let Sullivan anywhere near the response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Quote "All restrictions must be lifted on Kyiv’s ability to strike legitimate military targets in Russia. Victory means taking out the archer, not defending indefinitely against his arrows." "Ukraine must be able to strike all legitimate military targets in Russia with U.S.-supplied weapons to adequately defend itself." Those restrictions are such a farce. They are beyond idiotic and make you think western countries are happy for Ukraine to lose and die slowly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) 3rd assault brigade on the move in Kharkiv apparently. Probably moving into the areas Russia has moved troops from. Might as well roll into Belgorod. 4 km advances into that area north of Vovshansk Russia attacked not long ago in one day. Trench attack specialists. Edited August 22 by magnkarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Are Russia too scared to send aircraft into the area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 ISW: Russia shifting troops from Chasiv Yar to Kursk Oblast Quote According to the Institute for the Study of War (ISW), Russian authorities have reportedly redeployed Russian units from the Chasiv Yar direction to Kursk Oblast. This comes amid efforts to address the ongoing Ukrainian incursion into Kursk Oblast, with Russian forces previously in the area and redeployments from lower priority sectors of the frontline in Ukraine. Starting to see the effect Ukraine wants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Genie Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Only took them 2 weeks, hopefully Ukraine has used that time to prepare well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 (edited) 6 minutes ago, villa89 said: Just looks like another convoy waiting to be ambushed. Get the Javelin's and HIMARS ready boys. Edited August 23 by AshVilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 HIMARS time. Getting many of these so called 'elite' units in transit would be a big win. Heck, getting them out of the Donbas is a big win. Add to it the logistics it takes to move them, and Ukraine have got a small win already. FPV the hell out of them once they get close to highway from Kursk to Sudzha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 12 minutes ago, villa89 said: If true… finally! Orc meat back on the menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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