Keyblade Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, bickster said: O M F G Social media + celebrity + American main character syndrome = very potent concoction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Awol said: Exactly. They can manage four state budgets on existing reserves, and two years with no gas sales to Europe - at all. This isn’t a man who lost his mind during lockdown, this is the culmination of a plan many years in the making to restore the Russian Empire. We’re so post-modern in the West (or our leaders are) that we cannot conceive of people doing this in the (cliche alert) *21st Century!* it’s our fault, we indulged the weak willed and wooly minded, buying into their BS about a post-force European order. It was then and is now absolute nonsense - as Putin is demonstrating. If the only price we in the west pay to collectively learn that lesson is the fall of Ukraine then we’ve got off very lightly - with apologies to any Ukrainians. You seem to know your shit. How do you reckon this is gonna end this time, or is Poland next?? We can't send in the military surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted February 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 24, 2022 Maybe I should've gone to Lidl earlier 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: You seem to know your shit. How do you reckon this is gonna end this time, or is Poland next?? We can't send in the military surely. Poland is a NATO member. Putin isn't stupid enough to have a crack at NATO as a whole. The end game is Ukraine becomes Russia again, with an extended guerrilla war putting up resistance. Georgia will be looking over their shoulder. Long term if Putin does fancy having the full extent of the old empire back, he will have to try to pull nations out of NATO. Given he has history with fermenting discontent in enemy states with troll farms and media manipulation, it's not beyond the realms of doubt. But without that they aren't poking NATO directly. That had been underlined with Biden pointedly saying troops and supplies are going to the Eastern border of the alliance. It's reinforcing the line that can't be crossed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Watching flight radar is interesting. USAF now have 2 Strato tankers hovering around Romania. Took off from Mildenhall in the UK. I wonder if the USAF have some big boys not on radar over Ukraine having a look around?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: Maybe I should've gone to Lidl earlier It’s close but it’s logical positioning really as the Russians will be looking to pincer into Ukraine. No way that positioning means they are gearing up to attack Poland. Edited February 24, 2022 by Tayls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Awol said: Try to imagine turning up at the Bull Ring and collecting rifles and ammunition to fight and defend Birmingham. That’s just silly. I’m not going all the way into Bham City centre to collect my guns. So they do next day delivery to my house? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted February 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tayls said: It’s close but it’s logical positioning really as the Russians will be looking to pincer into Ukraine. No way that positioning means they are gearing up to attack Poland. Just like the build up on the borders of Ukraine were "exercises." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 47 minutes ago, bickster said: O M F G 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Seems like after a period of intense fighting, Ukrainian forces have won back control of Hostomel airfield on the outskirts of Kiev. @magnkarl you were right on this one! Now contemplating destroying the airfield so it can't be used again as a landing pad, probably a good idea in the circumstances: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 35 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: You seem to know your shit. How do you reckon this is gonna end this time, or is Poland next?? We can't send in the military surely. If Pelosi is correct then it’s Hungary next as it is encircled by Russia , Belarus and the Crimea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted February 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: Forte12 spy UAV at work on flight radar, just off the coast of Ukraine. Worst. Spy. Ever. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 41 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Tom Tugendhat stands up in the Commons and says 'we can expel Russian citizens - all of them', then a little while later sends the following tweet: He's honestly such a berk. Fought his Jacob’s off in Afghan tbf, but again not someone with an ounce of strategic nous - much like most of his ex-mil colleagues in the HoC. They’re an emotionally aggressive lot which is exactly what you want at the pointy end of policy, put not in the people who are making it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Ben Wallace appears to have gone from ‘kicking Russias arse’ all the way down to ‘an ambitious set of sanction’ in just 24 hours. Hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ciggiesnbeer Posted February 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2022 Putin: Murdering innocent people and invading a sovereign country. GOP: Putin is just defending himself. Wokeists are to blame, also Biden. Scum. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, villan-scott said: Worst. Spy. Ever. Flying at 54000 ft though, so not much gonna see it, or get to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) lord haw-haw 's latest take. blame the EU and NATO. Edited February 24, 2022 by ciggiesnbeer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MessiWillSignForVilla Posted February 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Genie said: But he has He/Him in his twitter bio, I've been reliably informed that it's impossible to focus on literally anything else if you care about pronouns, so how has the chief of MI6 managed to pull that off!?!? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Awol said: Fought his Jacob’s off in Afghan tbf, but again not someone with an ounce of strategic nous - much like most of his ex-mil colleagues in the HoC. They’re an emotionally aggressive lot which is exactly what you want at the pointy end of policy, put not in the people who are making it. A boring hobby horse of mine that will never ever happen anyway is that 'oratory' shouldn't be allowed in the House of Commons, and that debates should just be clear statements of what people actually propose doing. He got into this muddle because he's off in full flow giving it the righteous preacher man stuff, as he is wont to do. If he'd instead just been saying 'here is what should happen: A, B and C' in plain English it would have been better for everyone. Way too many people in the Commons who treat it all as halfway between theatre and sermon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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