avfc1982am Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, hippo said: So with Germany and USA today indicating they still want to buy Russian oil and the uk seeizing the assets of a whopping 2 Russian oligarchs - it would seem that's it's far from Putin miscalculating the wests response - he's seems to have got it pretty much spot on. Of course it is....They first virtue signal, secondly blame each other, thirdly blame you and fourthly crack on like nothing happened. Bunch of.....£€&*$ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, KentVillan said: Has he though? Quite a lot of stuff has happened that wasn't thought likely at the start of this. It was always expected that Germany would be hard to convince on energy, but they've gone much further than most people thought they would. Also, the FT is reporting that lots of unsanctioned Russians are getting caught up in sanctions anyway because banks are terrified of getting caught working with intermediaries. The evidence from Russia seems to be that the sanctions are hitting very hard - bank runs, ruble value down significantly, stock market closed, etc. Plus war is a very expensive activity in itself, and Putin has sunk billions on it now. Window dressing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, hippo said: Window dressing. Based on what? You think these sanctions are all a big pantomime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 7, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 7, 2022 I would say the fact that Putin has got angry about them and asked them to stop implies they are working. He's feeling the heat alright 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 4 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I'm obviously speaking in Clingong. Thats a city in China isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sne Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Awol said: Irish invading Russian territory, eh? A bold step, to be sure. Attacking while they're elsewhere occupied (occupying). How dastardly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Awol said: Irish invading Russian territory, eh? A bold step, to be sure. Our fishermen already kicked them out of the Atlantic. We could have Moscow in a few days at this rate 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheVilla26 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 My biggest fear in all this still remains that one of the NATO countries will just be like.... LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEROY JEEEEEEEEEEEENKINS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, trekka said: It isn't At least one person has been cleared of the blame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 hours ago, bickster said: None of those answers are correct Z Eastern Military District Z in the box Russian army stationed in Crimea O Russian army stationed in Belarus V Russian Naval Infantry X Kadyrov Chechnya A Alpha Ground Special Forces Z, X and A have mostly been annihilated. The sportsmen and women wearing the Z might as well put on the swaztika, it's about the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post magnkarl Posted March 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2022 It's like the Ukranian territorial defense batallions are channeling the Viet Cong. The Russians swamp an area with armour and artillery, the Ukranians disperse. The Russians push on after taking something, the Ukranians pop up and retake whatever the Russians took, cut their supply lines and Javelin the hell out of their vehicles. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KentVillan Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, magnkarl said: It's like the Ukranian territorial defense batallions are channeling the Viet Cong. The Russians swamp an area with armour and artillery, the Ukranians disperse. The Russians push on after taking something, the Ukranians pop up and retake whatever the Russians took, cut their supply lines and Javelin the hell out of their vehicles. Yeah, a lot of the “Russian controlled” territory on those maps is just main roads. The Ukrainians presumably are just spreading out to surrounding towns / villages / forests, and using superior local knowledge to move freely. It just feels identical to every other case of a great power thinking it can steamroller a big country that doesn’t want it there. Whether it’s the French resistance or the Viet Cong or the Taliban… how does Putin achieve anything here in the long run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, hippo said: So with Germany and USA today indicating they still want to buy Russian oil and the uk seeizing the assets of a whopping 2 Russian oligarchs - it would seem that's it's far from Putin miscalculating the wests response - he's seems to have got it pretty much spot on. I’m not sure. People are still buying the stuff they can’t live without, that was a given. No way Putin expecting the plethora of other sanctions from so many other western businesses that are crippling his economy. He even came close to begging them to stop. Edited March 7, 2022 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Genie said: I’m not sure. People are still buying the stuff they can’t live without, that was a given. No way Putin expecting the plethora of other sanctions from so many other western businesses that are crippling their economy. Nor no doubt the number of companies that ceased operating in the country and will be pissing the general public off and turning them against his war It sounds daft that Netflix and Spotify could have a kind of impact but this must be close now to impacting pretty much every Russian who isn't a country bumpkin, its so many facets of a normal modern life that are now impacted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDR V2 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 3 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: What does the Z signify? Zorro (not checked if someone else said this) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDR V2 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: This clearing in the woods looks like someone, rattling my brain to think of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 7, 2022 Moderator Share Posted March 7, 2022 38 minutes ago, magnkarl said: Z, X and A have mostly been annihilated. The sportsmen and women wearing the Z might as well put on the swaztika, it's about the same. There's more reinforcements on the way for Z (its not even a joke) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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