TDR V2 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: He won't use one period. It's end of days even if he uses one even just in Ukraine. I still believe they are a deterrent nothing else. Like has been said there's lots of nasty weapons to use before he goes nuclear. Not much of a deterrent are they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Talldarkandransome said: Not much of a deterrent are they Well no one has bombed Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDR V2 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Well no one has bombed Russia. Well i could put my 'don't give a shit' head on and say I wish someone would. But I would be roundly condemned I imagine. We aint dealing with a normal regular leader, dismissing his use of nukes as nonsense is as daft as someone invading a peaceful country for made up reasons. Yes he'll go chemical first if he feels he needs to but insisting he wouldn't go further is naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LondonLax Posted March 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2022 2 hours ago, nick76 said: So basically you’re accepting that Russia will take over Ukraine because that’s what is going to happen at current rate. I understand that view because ‘escalating’ has much bigger implications but people have to accept if we continue as we are then Russia get Ukraine. If that’s ok by people then so be it. What happens if he goes after one or two more non-NATO countries afterwards, does that make a difference? What happens if he goes after a small NATO country? Just wondering where the line is that our side escalate a bit. It will obviously be different for different people based on personal views and or agreements. Kinzinger made a valid point whether you agree or not but maybe a no fly zone is not appropriate yet but we will likely get there at some point. If it makes you feel any better I’m pretty confident NATO special forces units are already in Ukraine and making a significant contribution, they are just not announcing it for obvious reasons. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Quote Store owner: We have been fighting against Russia for 300 years LVIV. The military store Rezervist no longer sells protective equipment to Ukrainians. They give it away. - We have fought against various forms of Russia for 300 years. This is just another stage in the fight for our country, says owner Solya, 35. The queue outside the store that sells surplus military material consists of old and young, men and women. Two of them wrinkle their noses a little when we ask if we can come in, but then open the door welcomingly when we declare that we are journalists. They want us to tell you what's going on here. Owner Solya mutes the phone but says she will cancel the interview if her husband calls. He belongs to the 303rd amphibious battalion and is currently stationed in Dnipro in eastern Ukraine , where fighting has been fierce since Russia invaded. The two met in 2014 in Maydan Square in Kyiv, when they protested against President Viktor Yanukovych's government and the close ties to Russia. When Russia annexed Crimea and invaded Donetsk and Luhansk in eastern Ukraine, the couple decided to raise money to buy military equipment for the army and the Ukrainian variant of the Home Guard, which are also involved in the country's defense. The initiative was developed into the store we are in now. Here you will find everything from folding knives, flashlights, wool socks, camouflage, sleeping bags, backpacks and clothes to cleaning kits for weapons. There used to be bulletproof helmets and safety vests, but they quickly sold out. Since February 24, the store is much more than just a store. - Now we sell everything at a discounted price and return to becoming volunteers, Solya explains. The principle is that whoever wants and can pay. Those who do not have money get equipment for free. - If a person comes here and says that they are going out to the front line but can not afford equipment, we give them the thumbs up to take what they need. https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/g6OJ2q/kriget-i-ukraina-butik-i-lviv-ger-bort-skyddsutrustning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 1 hour ago, bickster said: Its not even that many people This is what 100,000 people on the streets of Moscow looks like. From 2011 And this is 100,000 people protesting in Moscow in 1991 at the time of the collapse of the Soviet Union As someone commented in that thread “that’s not a protest rally , that’s just the queue at the ATM “ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Awol Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Evacuation negotiations for humanitarian corridors nothing but a cynical hoax, the Russians will kill as many Ukrainians as they can. More weapons, more sanctions. Do to Russia’s economy what Russia is trying to do to Ukraine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 The number of viva Russia replies on the villa Facebook is mental I guess it's bots but that makes it equally as mental if that's me watching it in full flow, there's hundreds of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, villa4europe said: The number of viva Russia replies on the villa Facebook is mental I guess it's bots but that makes it equally as mental if that's me watching it in full flow, there's hundreds of them It was the same when Villa put rainbow colours on for Pride, thousands of anti-gay posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, villa4europe said: The number of viva Russia replies on the villa Facebook is mental I guess it's bots but that makes it equally as mental if that's me watching it in full flow, there's hundreds of them The bots are truly out in force. I don't really use a lot of social media (BBC and this forum are my main sources of news), so it's a bit shocking when I venture out there to see tons of pro-Russia nonsense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Genie said: It was the same when Villa put rainbow colours on for Pride, thousands of anti-gay posts. I thought that was more the Egyptian trezueguet fanbase from the little I saw Same as when they posted something about Jewish holidays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Mozzavfc said: The bots are truly out in force. I don't really use a lot of social media (BBC and this forum are my main sources of news), so it's a bit shocking when I venture out there to see tons of pro-Russia nonsense It’s nice to think they are just bots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, villa4europe said: I thought that was more the Egyptian trezueguet fanbase from the little I saw Same as when they posted something about Jewish holidays The world outside the political West has very different values that we can be a little uncomfortable with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, villa4europe said: The number of viva Russia replies on the villa Facebook is mental I guess it's bots but that makes it equally as mental if that's me watching it in full flow, there's hundreds of them Where are the accounts (supposedly) from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Serbians rallying behind Russia in the streets. I know they hate NATO but that doesnt make it right to support fascist aggression and an unhinged dictator. Really sickening 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted March 5, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) Interesting that with the loss of the Mriya An-225 (the world's largest cargo plane that was used to ferry COVID-vaccines amongst other things), Antonov are getting revenge by sending all of their cargo planes to be used to transport military equipment etc. This one has been going back and forth from Estonia all day: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ur-11316/#2b060791 This one brought in more drones: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ur-82072/#2b062985 Antonov were tweeting how to make molotov cocktails at one point on their twitter page. Edited March 5, 2022 by trekka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 3 hours ago, MessiWillSignForVilla said: It should be obvious, but here's why a no fly zone would be insane, it would be seen as a declaration of war on Russia, and starting WW3 that could potentially become nuclear is not something anyone wants. Agree. But I think over the next few weeks - it will become inevitable that the west is at war with Russia. If/when we do get involved - we might find ourselves thinking it would have been easier to get involved earlier and how niave we were to think we could topple Putin with sanctions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, KentVillan said: Where are the accounts (supposedly) from? Loads of places, Tanzania, Bangladesh, kenya, Egypt, Iraq, tunisia Part of me think its weird that villa have that kind of global following in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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