ender4 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, tomav84 said: isnt there an election this year? the russians are never voting him in for a 5th time They didn’t really vote for him the last 3 times! Last election he got 108% of the total possible vote! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted February 28, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: It does make you wonder why its taken so long to make ukraine part of the EU It hasn't taken a long time. The uprising was in 2014. Until that point, Ukraine was in thrall to Russia and there had been years of political instability. Since that point, they have had to work towards meeting the criteria of joining the EU. This isn't something the can just wave a magic wand and make happen, it's a lengthy process. In Mаrch 2016, Jeаn-Clаude Juncker, the then-President of the Europeаn Commission, stаted thаt Ukrаine would not be ready to join the Europeаn Union for аnother 20 to 25 yeаrs. Edited February 28, 2022 by choffer tidy ups 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 If anyone's wondering where you can find info on the conflict, here's a map with uploads from civilians etc. https://liveuamap.com/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Turkish made drones destroying Russian columns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, LondonLax said: good to see cyclists hog the middle of the road around the world and not just the streets of Surrey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Remember when I was young-ish and the first Gulf war was happening and CNN was broadcasting everything live. Remember thinking it was all very exciting. Now I just look at it and see people dying and people having their lives destroyed. Every one of those explosions it's people dying. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, magnkarl said: Turkish made drones destroying Russian columns. Here's another one. You see the reaction of the troops on the ground. They think they are under attack from ground forces to their right flank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, magnkarl said: Turkish made drones destroying Russian columns. physiologically that must be hell for the ground troops , knowing that you can essentially be picked off any time , any place without any real warning by someone with a laptop miles away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Just now, tonyh29 said: physiologically that must be hell for the ground troops , knowing that you can essentially be picked off any time , any place without any real warning by someone with a laptop miles away Serves you right when you invade someone's coutry on the word of a madman, it's weird why not more of these Russian soldiers actually surrender to get out of that shithole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) I think a lot of them are thinking wtf are we doing here. A good stat I found on the weekend is that russia's population today is about half of what the ussr was in 1990 before it collapsed. Which shows the decline of Russia, no matter what Putin thinks. Edited February 28, 2022 by The Fun Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Just now, magnkarl said: Serves you right when you invade someone's coutry on the word of a madman, it's weird why not more of these Russian soldiers actually surrender to get out of that shithole. Is it really that weird? They'd have all their loved ones and families sent to work camps or worse if they do. They'd likely get shot themselves and no doubt they are spoon fed Russian propaganda thinking they are actually the good guys. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 minute ago, The Fun Factory said: I think a lot of them are thinking wft are we doing here. A good stat I found on the weekend is that russia's population today is about half of what the ussr was in 1990 before it collapsed. Which shows the decline of Russia, no matter what Putin thinks. Keep in mind that former USSR countries will not be counted in Russia's population numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Just now, Seat68 said: Keep in mind that former USSR countries will not be counted in Russia's population numbers. Well yeah that was the point I was trying to make. And it is having a negative population growth rate, along with most of eastern europe. Poland might go up quite a lot now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 The Ukrainian soldiers are taking the piss out the Russians. I've seen a photo this morning of a Russian wrapped in clingfilm to a streetlighting column. Psychological warfare next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 minute ago, The Fun Factory said: Well yeah that was the point I was trying to make. And it is having a negative population growth rate, along with most of eastern europe. Poland might go up quite a lot now. I missed that. Apologies. I am doing a lot of shooting myself in the foot at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: The Ukrainian soldiers are taking the piss out the Russians. I've seen a photo this morning of a Russian wrapped in clingfilm to a streetlighting column. Psychological warfare next level. Saw it too. What a rude awakening this must be for so many brain washed young men from Russia. You go in wanting to fight neo-nazi drug users but end up being verbally abused by a 90 year old, and then get cling filmed to a lamp post.. Edited February 28, 2022 by magnkarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, sne said: Is it really that weird? They'd have all their loved ones and families sent to work camps or worse if they do. They'd likely get shot themselves and no doubt they are spoon fed Russian propaganda thinking they are actually the good guys. Their family is likely already in prison for protesting against the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: The Ukrainian soldiers are taking the piss out the Russians. I've seen a photo this morning of a Russian wrapped in clingfilm to a streetlighting column. Psychological warfare next level. Micro machines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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avfc1982am Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 I'm not sure Russians soldiers or citizens are ready to follow Putin into WW3. Most Russians will know by now what is really going on. Interesting though how Putin has closed off Red Square and any access to Government buildings. He is obviously concerned about his own people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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