magnkarl Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Further to the point made in the Twitter thread on the previous page about the importance of logistics, this type of stuff is a bit embarrassing really: Twitter is flooded with videos like this of Russians sitting on highways everywhere. Putin’s kleptocracy has severely damaged the army. Edited February 26, 2022 by magnkarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Further to the point made in the Twitter thread on the previous page about the importance of logistics, this type of stuff is a bit embarrassing really: Shame there aren't any Ukrainian troops nearby who can take them out whilst they're sitting ducks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, sidcow said: Shame there aren't any Ukrainian troops nearby who can take them out whilst they're sitting ducks. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 hour ago, CVByrne said: China has taken a completely different path in that it wants trade and it wants to be the dominant economic power in Asia. China wants to be an economic superpower and improve the lives of it's people. Putin has no interest in his people. So I can't see China invading a soverign state like Russia has done in Ukraine. Like would China invade Vietnam and Laos for example! Taiwan is different because that is a result of the Chinses civil war and it's a fully recognised country. I agree. China won't go to war for anybody but China. No way will they go and undo decades of economic growth by isolating themselves globally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, CVByrne said: We need to give them surface to air missiles to defend from bombing. We need to get them weapons. Drive the trucks to the border and let them take them to Kyiv. We have to cut Russia off from Swift and do "searches" of Russian transport ships. We need to pressure Turkey to cut off the access to the Black sea and same with Egypt for Suez canal. We need eastern Med and Baltic sea to be full of Nato warships to search shits bound for Russia We should look at history and try to learn from it. Arming the enemy of our enemy has often backfired dramatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: We should look at history and try to learn from it. Arming the enemy of our enemy has often backfired dramatically. Ukraine is no enemy. They’ve been effed by Russia since 1930. Holdomor, poisoning of leaders, supplying Russian passports, annexing Crimea. The list goes on. They need to be admitted to the EU. Edited February 26, 2022 by magnkarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Dosent anyone in a position of power read the history books,FFS.Hitler did the same thing years ago.He took over Austria ( no problem from the west ) he took over part of Hungary ( no problem from the west ) then part of Czechslovakia.The west ONLY started to take him on when he went into Poland,so how many more countries is Putin going to take over before the west does something about it.How much more misery and death is he going to cause before we (AT LEAST ) impose some tougher sanctions.FFS ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Further to the point made in the Twitter thread on the previous page about the importance of logistics, this type of stuff is a bit embarrassing really: Yeah, here is one with translation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Just now, magnkarl said: Ukraine is no enemy. They’ve been effed by Russia since 1945. Holdomor, poisoning of leaders, supplying Russian passports, annexing Crimea. The list goes on. They need to be admitted to the EU. I didn't say they are our enemy. I said they are the enemy of our enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 minute ago, PussEKatt said: Dosent anyone in a position of power read the history books,FFS.Hitler did the same thing years ago.He took over Austria ( no problem from the west ) he took over part of Hungary ( no problem from the west ) then part of Czechslovakia.The west ONLY started to take him on when he went into Poland,so how many more countries is Putin going to take over before the west does something about it.How much more misery and death is he going to cause before we (AT LEAST ) impose some tougher sanctions.FFS ?! He hasn't managed to take over one yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: We should look at history and try to learn from it. Arming the enemy of our enemy has often backfired dramatically. Whilst this is true it's most often been unstable regimes with little liking for the West where these proxy wars have been fought. Ukraine is different in that they are pro west, pro European with a democracy and its difficult to see them turning away from The West when this is all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 What about Georgia and Crimea,and he is in the process of taking over Ukrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 minute ago, PussEKatt said: What about Georgia and Crimea,and he is in the process of taking over Ukrain. Russia hasn't taken over Georgia; it has supplied support to two breakaway provinces. Georgia is still there, still a functioning country with a functioning government, and has been since 2008. Russia *did* successfully annex Crimea, but Crimea isn't and wasn't a country. 'He is in the process of taking over Ukraine', yes probably that's going to be the end result, though it seems to be going worse for them than they expected. But if he is going to 'take over Ukraine', i.e. annex it, that is going to occupy Russia's army *for years*. Look, I know it's an emotional time, but this isn't the 1930s and Russia isn't Nazi Germany and the political and miitary landscape of eastern Europe today is not at all similar to the political and military landscape of of central Europe 80 years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 IMHO,I cant see too much difference between Putin and Hitler.Apart from the Jews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 One thing he is loosing the propaganda war. I think the protests at home are more than he anticipated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted February 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2022 33 minutes ago, CVByrne said: We need to give them surface to air missiles to defend from bombing. We need to get them weapons. Drive the trucks to the border and let them take them to Kyiv. We have to cut Russia off from Swift and do "searches" of Russian transport ships. We need to pressure Turkey to cut off the access to the Black sea and same with Egypt for Suez canal. We need eastern Med and Baltic sea to be full of Nato warships to search shits bound for Russia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Just now, PussEKatt said: IMHO,I cant see too much difference between Putin and Hitler.Apart from the Jews. To be fair I’d say that’s a pretty big difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: he took over part of Hungary ( no problem from the west ) Happy to be corrected but I’m not sure about that … Hungary were on Germanys side and even gained territory out of the 38 Vienna award thanks to Germany ( and Italy to a lesser extent) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Yeah, here is one with translation Can I tow you back to Russia … quality 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: IMHO,I cant see too much difference between Putin and Hitler.Apart from the Jews. Putin is far more isolated than Hitler. People say it could be the start of WWIII when really it would just be Russia vs Nato/the rest of the world and Russia would get annihilated. Even if Putin is mad enough to nuke somewhere Moscow would probably get nuked back from any given direction and it would be over. My optimistic side wonders if this war is like omicron, it seems like a disaster to start with but before long you realise it's Putin's last stand, he either gets deposed or killed, Ukraine and other nearby countries join Nato, Russia gets democracy and no more skullduggery in the USA and other countries' elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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