Xann Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) On 16/12/2023 at 20:14, magnkarl said: So Oryx can only find 5% of the donated heavy equipment given to Ukraine in non recoverable or recoverable losses, and the Welt newspaper is running with the idea that they're still holding off on using it until next summer which in some circles it is believed to apparently Zaluzhnyi’s plan all along. I don't know if it's cope, if it's down to Ukraine not actually having received the promised military aid or if it's a mixture of truth and clinging on to as many straws as you can. Here's what Euromaidan writes about it Why would they hold all this military equipment until next summer, surely they would have attacked this summer and made some gains if they had all that excess equipment? Edited December 18, 2023 by ender4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, ender4 said: Why would they hold all this military equipment until next summer... https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2024/winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 18, 2023 Moderator Share Posted December 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, ender4 said: Why would they hold all this military equipment until next summer, surely they would have attached this summer and made some gains if they had all that excess equipment? Because next summer they are expected to have the promised modern NATO (relatively) jets as air support, which they currently lack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ender4 said: Why would they hold all this military equipment until next summer, surely they would have attached this summer and made some gains if they had all that excess equipment? I think the word was that the tanks aren't useful on their own without adequate air support. When they tried to use them in the summer they ran into issues with mines etc. no point getting all that equipment lost this winter. This war isn't going anywhere. Edited December 18, 2023 by villa89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Somewhat concerning that the news that Ukraine is running out of ammunition (thanks to Hungary and the Republician party via Russia) to defend themselves is about the 4 ot 5th headline today in most news outlets. Putin tactic of grinding on and hoping the west will get bored to the next shiny thing could well work. Plus a bit of bribery here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Ukraine is also getting massively out ‘gunned’ on drones. China and Russia are producing cheap drones at something like ten to one over Ukraine. It is making Ukrainian troop movements impossible in many places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Seeing Russia's ambassador to the UN call for Israel to stop its war is a bit like Hitler asking Franco to stop his war. The UN is a joke. Russia attacked Ukraine totally unprovoked, yet this waste of oxygen can't even see how hypocritical of Russia it is to ask others to stop invading and bombing folks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 2 hours ago, magnkarl said: The UN is a joke. Like I said earlier I this thread it's a totally pointless organisation. Its soldiers turn up after the war is over and leave as soon as someone shoots at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 (edited) Ukraine has shot down four Russian Su-34 bombers and a Su-30 in the last few days. That’s a pretty big deal. The talk is a new Patriot air defence system has been donated from Germany and deployed in the south, making the air space unusable for Russia. For their part Russian sources are claiming the new Dutch F-16s are operating and are responsible. Edited December 25, 2023 by LondonLax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 25, 2023 Moderator Share Posted December 25, 2023 2 hours ago, LondonLax said: For their part Russian sources are claiming the new Dutch F-16s are operating and are responsible. They didn’t think about that too much did they. “Our super Duper new modern best in the world aircraft got shot down by some old shit NATO we’re giving away because they didn’t need it” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 1 hour ago, bickster said: They didn’t think about that too much did they. “Our super Duper new modern best in the world aircraft got shot down by some old shit NATO we’re giving away because they didn’t need it” Yeah, it doesn’t say much for their air force Australia has begun operating a ‘wedgetail’ long range surveillance aircraft in the area recently which may have also given the Patriot systems more advanced targeting capability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 25, 2023 Moderator Share Posted December 25, 2023 Navalny no longer dead according to his supporters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted December 25, 2023 Administrator Share Posted December 25, 2023 1 hour ago, bickster said: Navalny no longer dead according to his supporters Schrödinger's Navalny? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, bickster said: Navalny no longer dead according to his supporters He would probably be better off dead at this stage. All that poison he's ingested can't have left him in a pleasant state. Edited December 25, 2023 by villa89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Another Russian warship has bitten the dust think this is the 2nd video in this is favourite video I've seen of it so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) It’s win-win if Russia thinks it is f-16s, Ukraine are due many more if the few Dutch ones delivered have caused all this damage and chaos. Personally I think it’s the patriot batteries from Norway/Germany with other radar systems, but who knows. Ukraine are in a very new situation with the fact that they can turn off long range radar systems so Russian jets get close, then switch to Iris/samp-T/NASAMS systems for shorter tracking and then activate Patriot when they notice enough targets within range on the other systems. Patriot has a range of 150kms, Russia drops glide bombs at about 50kms, it’s a good tactic to hollow out Russia’s airforce even more. Edited December 26, 2023 by magnkarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Russia launched its largest bombardment of Ukraine so far in the war this morning. 110 missiles and drones at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 29, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 29, 2023 After the bombing of that ship I'd have spent the next week in a basement if I was in Ukraine. Russia always launches a big retaliation after a high profile loss like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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