Mozzavfc Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Prigozhin to replace Luka in Belarus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, Genie said: So the point was to get safe passage to Belarus then. Don't think that was the point, I think he's essentially bottled it. If Shoigu stays then he looks even more ridiculous. Managed a solution which doesn't really solve anything and all parties look incredibly weak because of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 24, 2023 Moderator Share Posted June 24, 2023 Just now, Mozzavfc said: Prigozhin to replace Luka in Belarus? Nah, It’s a really really odd place for him to be “exiled” to. Luka is a bit of a joke, he's only in power because of Putin, the country is never far from revolution. The military have quite obviously told Luka they'll keep him in power but they will absolutely not be joining the war. Russia really needs to have a military presence there to keep the country from revolution and the events of the last few days have shown how weak the Russian military is outside of the conflict zone. They have nothing, that will only empower the Belarus opposition and let’s not forget, there are three whole battalions of battle hardened Belarus opposition troops fighting for Ukraine right now. They will turn their attention to home eventually and the Belarus military really have nothing. Prigozhin wil, be plotting his next move and Luka wants his support 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Are Wagner completely withdrawn from Ukraine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, djdabush said: Don't think that was the point, I think he's essentially bottled it. If Shoigu stays then he looks even more ridiculous. Managed a solution which doesn't really solve anything and all parties look incredibly weak because of it. He’s got himself out of the legal issues and a (potentially) safe place to live. He had a showdown with Putin and Putin bottled it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 24, 2023 Moderator Share Posted June 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: Are Wagner completely withdrawn from Ukraine? They pretty much were anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 24, 2023 Moderator Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Genie said: He’s got himself out of the legal issues and a (potentially) safe place to live. He had a showdown with Putin and Putin bottled it. They both bottled it if the truth be known 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post foreveryoung Posted June 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2023 The Grand ol' Duke of Wagner He had 25,000 men He marched all the way up to Moscow And he marched them down again And when they were up, they were up And when they were down, they were down And when they were only half way up he negotiated a withdrawal, allegedly 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted June 24, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 hour ago, bickster said: Is this a hunch? Or give us your reasoning? If Prigozhim was a dead man walking, he wouldn’t have stopped I won't answer for Tinker, but I do agree with him. How about an inductive reasoning-based hunch? A totality of my own observations suggests to me that Prigozhim thinks and acts impulsively. Yes, plenty of observers are like, "He's so impulsive-looking, he's clearly not," but I'd rather apply Occam's razor and just say, Priggy has given the world a litany of examples of impulsive behaviours, and so he probably is that way. It's not some clever ruse. My reasoned hunch is therefore that he was talked into a way out and grabbed it because the other alternatives seemed to require too much sustained give and take and too many unknowns (would the Russian military fight Wagner or support? etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Wonder what Prighozhin feels about losing the city he lost half of his army capturing while he’s walking to Belarus? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 17 minutes ago, magnkarl said: Wonder what Prighozhin feels about losing the city he lost half of his army capturing while he’s walking to Belarus? He's not losing it though. The regular Russian forces are losing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 I think Prigozhim lost his shit and had the kremlin very worried indeed, then 24 hours later with no sleep and probably crashing from whatever stimulant he used to stay awake, he ran out of steam and at his age probably needed a good sit down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 24, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24, 2023 We've seen how Putins assassin's work. Prighozhin is not going to get shot at close range or have someone slit his throat. He'll suddenly fall seriously ill having eaten something or touched the wrong thing whilst the assassin is half way back to Moscow. Or possibly take a bullet from a sniper a mile or more away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Captain_Townsend Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 hour ago, sidcow said: We've seen how Putins assassin's work. Prighozhin is not going to get shot at close range or have someone slit his throat. He'll suddenly fall seriously ill having eaten something or touched the wrong thing whilst the assassin is half way back to Moscow. Or possibly take a bullet from a sniper a mile or more away. He should avoid windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted June 24, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, sidcow said: We've seen how Putins assassin's work. Prighozhin is not going to get shot at close range or have someone slit his throat. He'll suddenly fall seriously ill having eaten something or touched the wrong thing whilst the assassin is half way back to Moscow. Or possibly take a bullet from a sniper a mile or more away. If only he'd stuck to selling hotdogs instead of murdering innocents to help prop up strongmen around the world. He sold a very, very good hotdog, apparently, with homemade mustard! It's very easy to underestimate the value of a perfect "dawg." Edited June 24, 2023 by Marka Ragnos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC_Hitz Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 7 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: Scrolling through twitter yesterday and I saw a few Biden's laptop things. I thought it was a meme/in joke I wasn't getting. Alas no, the culty bum warblers are peddling this shite again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Biden Derangement Syndrome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted June 25, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 25, 2023 Putins influence over social media is a dangerous weapon, it needs to be stopped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 interesting thread 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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