magnkarl Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Anthony said: An attack against prepared defenders is slow. And there will be high losses initially. It seems that several Bradleys have been lost, which, as above, is to be expected. What's impressive though is that survival rates for crew appear to be much higher than for the equivalent BMPs they had been using. Crews are hard to replace. Bradleys, on the other hand... there are thousands of them knocking about. Yeah, the US have been trying to flog the Bradleys since Iraq. They've got thousands of them in storage that no one wants to buy. If the crew can survive in Ukraine there should be plenty to fill the gap, and both sides will be pleased. The crew in all vehicles in said column seems to have survived, as per Mailar, which is a very good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) Russia is rumoured to have deployed all generals that are part of the armies of the South to areas close to the front, including Gerasimov, and Ukraine is rumoured to have hit a command post in Henichesk last night with Storm Shadow and taken out a major general. Russian tactics are just beyond me. Edited June 13, 2023 by magnkarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 43 minutes ago, magnkarl said: Russia is rumoured to have deployed all generals that are part of the armies of the South to areas close to the front, including Gerasimov, Shows you how bad the lines of communication are in the Russia army. Also it's not like these Russia generals are tactical masterminds, they haven't a clue what they are doing so losing a few of them isn't going to change much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 This is hilarious. Russian supporters are trying to convince the world that Africans are joining the Russian Army. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Fascinating watch for 5 min. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 5 hours ago, villa89 said: Shows you how bad the lines of communication are in the Russia army. Also it's not like these Russia generals are tactical masterminds, they haven't a clue what they are doing so losing a few of them isn't going to change much. It's more a fundamental difference in military doctorine that goes all the way back to at least 1st world war and probably further. The Russian generals have always been much closer to the front that with other nations partly due to their history of having very ill equipped and ill disciplined forces with a tendancy for routing. The theory being that you put a high ranking officer at the front the men are more likely to stand their ground. As you say though, they're pretty expendable and most of them wouldn't be qualified enough to hold seniority in a western army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bielesibub Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: This is hilarious. Russian supporters are trying to convince the world that Africans are joining the Russian Army. maybe next time they should have a crack with a grown up photo editor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Genie Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Nobody who really has what he says he has brags about it like that. What a dick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Genie Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Quote Vladimir Putin has said his forces lost 54 tanks in under two weeks of the Ukrainian counter-offensive in a rare admission of battlefield casualties. He refused to reveal more details but insisted the losses were much lower than Ukraine’s, claiming Kyiv had suffered “catastrophic” defeats, including swathes of Western-donated arms. link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 3 hours ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: All I heard in that interview was. "I am a scared dog". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 20 hours ago, bielesibub said: maybe next time they should have a crack with a grown up photo editor. There is nothing wrong with Adobvnev Fotocomrade 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 14, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 14, 2023 Gonna be interesting when these enter the fray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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avfc1982am Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) This is a really good mapping breakdown of the Ukrainian counter offensive. One of the most comprehensive reports I've seen. Edited June 14, 2023 by avfc1982am 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 7 hours ago, avfc1982am said: This is a really good mapping breakdown of the Ukrainian counter offensive. One of the most comprehensive reports I've seen. Great analysis but it really does underline the enormous scale of the task for Ukraine to recover its land. It seems like they are barely leaving a scratch on the Russian held territory which is a real concern. If this is it in terms of fully stocked counter offensive then it’s going to need a massive Russian collapse to make in-roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 34 minutes ago, Genie said: Great analysis but it really does underline the enormous scale of the task for Ukraine to recover its land. It seems like they are barely leaving a scratch on the Russian held territory which is a real concern. If this is it in terms of fully stocked counter offensive then it’s going to need a massive Russian collapse to make in-roads. I don't think we're necessarily seeing the main vector of attack yet, Russia is already redeploying soldiers to the areas where they're losing and Ukraine have mainly taken tactical heights using light equipment. An example right now is that Kadyrov's forces are deployed to Donetsk\Bakhmut and the Kherson btg's are deployed to near Tokmak. Once Ukraine has engaged all these troops they will likely deploy their 3-4 batallions of assault units, including most of the Western made tanks\CV90's\Abrahams\Challengers, to somewhere else (Luhansk?). They've already recovered the few Leo2's they lost and these are being repaired in Poland, while Russia has lost an enormous amount of the few tanks\afv's they've got left. The sounds coming from the US is that we're close to seeing ATACMS, and once Ukraine has these they won't have to push further than Melitopol to be able to cover essentially all of the occupied areas. Considering the few they've got of the kit, you can probably tell that the 'main attack' is on when the challengers are deployed. This won't happen until they reach the proper main first line of defenses around Tokmak. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 15, 2023 Moderator Share Posted June 15, 2023 Yep, still definitely just probing. In that video in one of the Southern fronts it was said that 7 battalions were attacking in one direction but only one of those was equipped with modern armour and they were most likely Bradley’s of which the US has shitloads. Most of the modern stuff hasn’t been used yet. For there to be big gains a front has to collapse to force the retreat, we’re a little way off that yet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 From reports I've seen it's suggested less than half the Brigades prepped for phase one of the counter are currently in action. Apparently up to 7 Brigades are still in reserve. Phases 2 and 3 are were all the elite troops and kit comes into the equation. We are still a couple of months off that unless the Russian start rolling over quick time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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