Mandy Lifeboats Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I am still not convinced that Russia is leaving Kherson. Even if they are, there will be plenty of deadly surprises waiting for the Ukrainians. Let's hope Ukraine resists the urge to rush in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 9, 2022 Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: I am still not convinced that Russia is leaving Kherson. Even if they are, there will be plenty of deadly surprises waiting for the Ukrainians. Let's hope Ukraine resists the urge to rush in. Completely agree, hence my original scepticism over the BBC story. High up Ukrainian military sources appear to share that view too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 9, 2022 Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2022 How the Kherson story is playing out on the side of the barbarian horde. Top translation from a Wagner PMC channel, bottom one from a 500k followers Barbarian War Account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 6 hours ago, Genie said: Did he fall out of a car window? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, LondonLax said: Did he fall out of a car window? I was thinking that they probably pushed the whole car through a nearby window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 10, 2022 Moderator Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, LondonLax said: Did he fall out of a car window? 24 minutes ago, Genie said: I was thinking that they probably pushed the whole car through a nearby window. The rumour is that he isn't dead at all. This isn't someone Putin wanted killed, this is someone Ukraine wanted dead. Lot's of Ukrainians think he's been disappeared to help get him out of Kherson. The man was a grade A loonball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, bickster said: The rumour is that he isn't dead at all. Probably accurate. Give him a new life back in Russia and avoid the shame of having to evacuate from a place you just annexed and said you'd never give up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 14 hours ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: I am still not convinced that Russia is leaving Kherson. Even if they are, there will be plenty of deadly surprises waiting for the Ukrainians. Let's hope Ukraine resists the urge to rush in. They have withdrawn, but left hundreds or even thousands of soldiers in civilian clothing / moved into abandoned buildings. Russia has also shipped in many TV crews / reporters into the area. Ukraine will seize control of the "abandoned" city, but "civilians" will be helpfully filmed by RTA and Russia today uprising against the Ukrainian barbarians as proof the "citizens" of Kherson are desperate to be a part of Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, pas5898 said: They have withdrawn, but left hundreds or even thousands of soldiers in civilian clothing / moved into abandoned buildings. Russia has also shipped in many TV crews / reporters into the area. Ukraine will seize control of the "abandoned" city, but "civilians" will be helpfully filmed by RTA and Russia today uprising against the Ukrainian barbarians as proof the "citizens" of Kherson are desperate to be a part of Russia. Surround it & wait is all that can be done short term I think. See what happens. They know they are dead if they fight and dead if they don't. Time to give them a way out maybe, they have been left to die, they must know this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 10, 2022 Moderator Share Posted November 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, pas5898 said: They have withdrawn, but left hundreds or even thousands of soldiers in civilian clothing / moved into abandoned buildings. Russia has also shipped in many TV crews / reporters into the area. Ukraine will seize control of the "abandoned" city, but "civilians" will be helpfully filmed by RTA and Russia today uprising against the Ukrainian barbarians as proof the "citizens" of Kherson are desperate to be a part of Russia. Is Baldrick in charge of this plan? Ukraine as good as said this was their plan two weeks ago so they aren't just going to march into Kherson triumphantly.. They'll go in house at a time, searching for 5th columnists, collaborators and booby traps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, bickster said: Is Baldrick in charge of this plan? Russian soldiers might surrender with pencils in their ears at this rate. They are executing this war by the book, unfortunately the books pages are in the wrong order and some are missing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, bickster said: They'll go in house at a time, searching for 5th columnists, collaborators and booby traps. That won't work, Russia has had time to prepare, they will never find them. Too well trained and dug in. Spoiler 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 27 minutes ago, pas5898 said: They have withdrawn, but left hundreds or even thousands of soldiers in civilian clothing / moved into abandoned buildings. Russia has also shipped in many TV crews / reporters into the area. Ukraine will seize control of the "abandoned" city, but "civilians" will be helpfully filmed by RTA and Russia today uprising against the Ukrainian barbarians as proof the "citizens" of Kherson are desperate to be a part of Russia. This "plan" will only work if Russia has complete command and control of all the defensive positions and they are fully stocked with what they need with a known workable plan. There is more chance they kill each other by mistake at the moment. They are clueless, the new guys are a waste of time. Not even worth counting as a fighting asset. Some of them have never shot the gun except a few goes before now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 34 minutes ago, pas5898 said: They have withdrawn, but left hundreds or even thousands of soldiers in civilian clothing / moved into abandoned buildings. Russia has also shipped in many TV crews / reporters into the area. Ukraine will seize control of the "abandoned" city, but "civilians" will be helpfully filmed by RTA and Russia today uprising against the Ukrainian barbarians as proof the "citizens" of Kherson are desperate to be a part of Russia. I am not sure that's a credible plan. Doesn't it show the Russian army running away and leaving Russian "civilians" to the persecution of Nazis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted November 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 10, 2022 Ukrainians should dress in Russian uniforms and order them to retreat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) There have been some hilarious exchanges on Twitter today. One Russia supporter was explaining that the East Bank of the river has huge defensive value and gives Russia a huge advantage for counter- attack. Apparently the West Bank is immensely vulnerable and will be difficult to defend. It was an excellent post including locations, land heights and numerous defensive features and weaknesses. Then someone pointed out that he'd actually been describing the West Bank. He deleted the post. Edited November 10, 2022 by Mandy Lifeboats speeling mishsteaks 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Another day, another bad Russian propaganda job.. Funnily George Galloway has this bad attempt at propaganda glued to his wall.. The man is disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, magnkarl said: Another day, another bad Russian propaganda job.. Funnily George Galloway has this bad attempt at propaganda glued to his wall.. The man is disgusting. From the sounds of it the image was created and promoted by a Ukrainian with Nazi sympathies back in 2018, a guy called Ihor Arkusha, who claimed to be selling them in Lviv. It was never a Ukrainian government stamp though. Here is his Facebook post trying to sell them and a debate below amongst Ukrainians on whether it is appropriate. https://www.kulemet.com/u-lvovi-pohasyly-marku-na-chest-stvorennya-dyviziji-ss-halychyna/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 10, 2022 Moderator Share Posted November 10, 2022 Tying themselves in knots 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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