Lichfield Dean Posted October 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Have you just made me watch a VPN advert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, bickster said: In this instance yes, one of the first things Russia did was unblock the canal, its that important to Crimea and they at this stage will still hope to keep Crimea I hope you're right and my concern doesn't unfold as reality. I just think if it looks like Crimea could get taken by Ukraine, what lengths would Russia go to, to hold on to it. I'm not 100% on the impact it would have on the region other than the water supply, but from flooding the region I'm sure that would be devastating in itself. Like I said I hope I'm trotting out horseshit and nothing happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 My favourite propagandist... He cheers me up no end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, avfc1982am said: My favourite propagandist... He cheers me up no end... What are the 500’s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: What are the 500’s? I have no idea. Sounds like a regiment of some sort. I love how prats who've never been to war quote Sun Tzu like some military intellect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 4, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 4, 2022 He can’t even get his Soviet military terminology correct what he’s calling 500s are actually 400s. He’s referring to those that surrender or refuse to fight You’ll see Ukrainians refer to Cargo 200 a lot when referring to dead soldiers and officers Cargo 100: ammunition Cargo 200: Dead Cargo 300: wounded Cargo 400: concussion or captured Cargo 500: medicines Cargo 600: oversized cargo Cargo 700: cash Cargo 800: "special" or chemical weapons 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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avfc1982am Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 'One night in Ukraine' is on IPlayer for anyone interested. Quite startling to be honest. Quote This film plays out in Ukraine on a single day: March 14, 2022, the 2,944th day of the Russian-Ukrainian War. In the last few weeks, intense warfare has surreally mixed places and people and created a post-apocalyptic dimension revealing new qualities and roles. Thousands of Kyivans have moved to live in subway stations. The capital city's previously calm suburbs have been transformed into battle zones of destruction and looting by Russian occupiers. People no longer live according to "workdays" or "weekends," counting instead the number of days since Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine... The film presents this day in the lives of a pop music star, video engineer, historian, art restorer, polar researcher, and pensioner, who were all forced to radically change their lives. https://www.radiotimes.com/movie-guide/b-0i2owd/one-day-in-ukraine/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sidcow Posted October 5, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2022 8 hours ago, avfc1982am said: 'One night in Ukraine' is on IPlayer for anyone interested. Quite startling to be honest. This film plays out in Ukraine on a single day: March 14, 2022, the 2,944th day of the Russian-Ukrainian War. In the last few weeks, intense warfare has surreally mixed places and people and created a post-apocalyptic dimension revealing new qualities and roles. Thousands of Kyivans have moved to live in subway stations. The capital city's previously calm suburbs have been transformed into battle zones of destruction and looting by Russian occupiers. People no longer live according to "workdays" or "weekends," counting instead the number of days since Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine... The film presents this day in the lives of a pop music star, video engineer, historian, art restorer, polar researcher, and pensioner, who were all forced to radically change their lives. It is good but I preferred one night in Paris. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted October 5, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2022 9 hours ago, avfc1982am said: 'One night in Ukraine' is on IPlayer for anyone interested. Quite startling to be honest. This film plays out in Ukraine on a single day: March 14, 2022, the 2,944th day of the Russian-Ukrainian War. In the last few weeks, intense warfare has surreally mixed places and people and created a post-apocalyptic dimension revealing new qualities and roles. Thousands of Kyivans have moved to live in subway stations. The capital city's previously calm suburbs have been transformed into battle zones of destruction and looting by Russian occupiers. People no longer live according to "workdays" or "weekends," counting instead the number of days since Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine... The film presents this day in the lives of a pop music star, video engineer, historian, art restorer, polar researcher, and pensioner, who were all forced to radically change their lives. Are the current battles and the Crimea annexation all generally considered part of the same war? I always though they were two separate (but intertwined) events. Has Ukraine considered itself at war with Russia between 2015 and 2022? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 "When we are retreating, we are advancing" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Lichfield Dean said: Are the current battles and the Crimea annexation all generally considered part of the same war? I always though they were two separate (but intertwined) events. Has Ukraine considered itself at war with Russia between 2015 and 2022? Fighting in Donbas never stopped since 2014 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted October 5, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2022 22 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: Fighting in Donbas never stopped since 2014 Ta, I hadn't really realised that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 5, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2022 43 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: "When we are retreating, we are advancing" 1984 doublethink at its finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, mjmooney said: 1984 doublethink at its finest. Star Trekkin across the universe, always going forwards cos we can't find reverse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjmooney Posted October 5, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2022 I've been surprised at how frank and negative Russian state TV has been allowed to be about their military reverses. But then a horrible thought struck me. Could it be conditioning people into a paranoid defensive mindset? The evil west is ganging up on us, and invading our Holy Russia. We have no choice now but to use nukes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 5, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, mjmooney said: I've been surprised at how frank and negative Russian state TV has been allowed to be about their military reverses. But then a horrible thought struck me. Could it be conditioning people into a paranoid defensive mindset? The evil west is ganging up on us, and invading our Holy Russia. We have no choice now but to use nukes... Yep, they're definitely ramping up about defeats because the whole world is against them and supplying Ukraine with powerful weapons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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