BleedClaretAndBlue Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Serbia doesn’t want breakaway regions getting even more ideas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 26, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 26, 2022 There appears to be a video out there of a military Commander in charge of a draft centre in Iruktusk getting shot (and possibly dying), it's not graphic though you do see him going down but it's still not something I'm putting here One way on not getting drafted I suppose. It does show how desperate these people are not to go to a war they have no choice in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 26, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 26, 2022 Something is definitely happening, another 5 manned aircraft claimed as downed yesterday (4 heli, 1 plane), there haven't been this amount of downed manned aircraft in such a short space of time for a while. Not so long ago, we'd go days on end with no aircraft shot down at all, now 10 in a weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 37 minutes ago, bickster said: Something is definitely happening, another 5 manned aircraft claimed as downed yesterday (4 heli, 1 plane), there haven't been this amount of downed manned aircraft in such a short space of time for a while. Not so long ago, we'd go days on end with no aircraft shot down at all, now 10 in a weekend. Iris-T and NASAMS were delivered last week. Wonder if Ukraine are using them for offence rather than an umbrella over their cities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 40 minutes ago, bickster said: Something is definitely happening, another 5 manned aircraft claimed as downed yesterday (4 heli, 1 plane), there haven't been this amount of downed manned aircraft in such a short space of time for a while. Not so long ago, we'd go days on end with no aircraft shot down at all, now 10 in a weekend. How much do these planes cost each? Aren’t they about $40m each? If so they’re getting on for about a billion dollars worth of losses out of the sky alone (and they can’t just simply reorder them either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Out of interest, how long does it to take to build a fighter jet (ignoring the obvious variables). Roughly I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Out of interest, how long does it to take to build a fighter jet (ignoring the obvious variables). Roughly I mean. I don't think it would be possible to build just 1. At least not at any kind of reasonable cost. You would need to set up supply contracts and a factory line for a whole set of jets to benefit from economies of scale to make it work Eurofighters are about USD 125m a pop apparently. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted September 26, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Out of interest, how long does it to take to build a fighter jet (ignoring the obvious variables). Roughly I mean. How long is a piece of string? It’s not a simple question. Think of car manufacturing. Morgan make a small number of cars a year. Toyota and VW each make hundreds of thousands a year, of their established models. But if a production line is shut down and needs reconfiguring for a new model, then there’s no cars made for a month. Same with fighter jets. Is the build line and all the fitters and inspectors sat there ready and waiting, or does it all have to be started up from scratch again? Are all the components available? What’s the lead time for an engine from the engine manufacturer? And for the ejection seat? and the canopy…and for the computers, radios, weapons systems, hydraulics, conditioning… And what about pre delivery testing? In essence if you have a production line already churning out aircraft, adding more onto the run is relatively straightforward, but if a factory is not building them currently, restarting is much slower and more complex. With Russia, there’s further factors that slow it down. Obsolescence of parts, non availability of parts due to sanctions and so on… Shorter answer “months” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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avfc1982am Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 "Alexander Eliseev, commander of the Russian military's recruitment office in the city of Ust-Ilimsk, was shot this morning. He is in a critical condition after the assassination. Russki Mir." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bickster Posted September 26, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 26, 2022 This man / youth clearly gives no f***s about what he's doing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, bickster said: This man / youth clearly gives no f***s about what he's doing here. Hes doing a pretty good job. I do wonder if in his haste he has trashed his own vehicle and has a long walk home. That would be very Russian. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 26, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: Hes doing a pretty good job. I do wonder if in his haste he has trashed his own vehicle and has a long walk home. That would be very Russian. Most effective use of a Lada in years 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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avfc1982am Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I think this channel gives a pretty decent independent breakdown of the battlefield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 7 hours ago, bickster said: This man / youth clearly gives no f***s about what he's doing here. This is utterly enthralling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I’m starting to get the feeling I has for a period before the wall fell. Something’s happening, I feel it in my joints. Maybe someone will park a lada up against the doors of the Kremlin and toss some vodka on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, magnkarl said: I’m starting to get the feeling I has for a period before the wall fell. Something’s happening, I feel it in my joints. You should stop smoking them, then! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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