bickster Posted September 20, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 minute ago, djdabush said: I mean I'm sure it's happened but there's a very large ex-pat Russian community in Tbilisi now (so much so it's driving up house rental prices) and from what I've seen if you show some anti-war sentiment then you get on ok. Yeah that bit was the problem in both instances I read about, they didn't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mandy Lifeboats Posted September 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2022 August - the Special Military Operation is going perfectly to plan. $750,000,000 flagship sunk. DONE Economy back to 2018. DONE Economic Sanctions. DONE NATO expanded. DONE Ukraine Army bigger than ever. DONE Ukraine Army better armed than ever. DONE. Dangerous Criminals freed and given guns. DONE Western Companies abandon Russia. DONE Make army a laughing stock. DONE. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 20, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: NATO expanded. DONE Not quite, still needs ratifying by Slovenia (due in parliament end of month), Hungary (FM announced today that they will) and unfortunately Turkey who still appear to be kicking it into the long grass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, bickster said: Not quite, still needs ratifying by Slovenia (due in parliament end of month), Hungary (FM announced today that they will) and unfortunately Turkey who still appear to be kicking it into the long grass Whilst all of that is correct, Sweden and Finland entered a guarantee defense alliance with the UK and USA until membership was ratified. Both countries have gone from neutral to aligned with NATO (even without formal membership). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, bickster said: Whatever he says, it's highly unlikely to be the truth. It will also be mainly for a domestic audience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted September 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2022 Apparently the speech isn't happening now. Weird one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Delayed till tomorrow, like all attention seekers, he’s milking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Just now, bannedfromHandV said: Delayed till tomorrow, like all attention seekers, he’s milking it. He looks weak and out of control tbh. I don’t think this is staged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Genie said: He looks weak and out of control tbh. I don’t think this is staged. I dunno, he’s obviously feeling shunned by the international community and not being invited to the big shindig yesterday will have riled him more. He no doubt enjoys believing he has the world on tenterhooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Genie Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: I dunno, he’s obviously feeling shunned by the international community and not being invited to the big shindig yesterday will have riled him more. He no doubt enjoys believing he has the world on tenterhooks. He’s rapidly losing the war, then after some big talking in the media he fails to appear at his own speech. The big players in New York are probably having a good giggle now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Isn’t Putin’s favourite meltyface, Lavrov, in New York? Good time to apprehend him for war crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 This is fast becoming my favourite channel. Comedy Central. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 The audio and the attitude on this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheAuthority Posted September 21, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2022 12 hours ago, Genie said: If Russia declared war I wonder if you could join the Russian army, then once in Ukraine go AWOL, try to get to Poland then seek asylum? That would be my plan. Dave, I know Liz Truss is a spanner and things are generally terrible under the Torys, but surely things aren't that bad in the UK? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post magnkarl Posted September 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2022 Good info from NAFO. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Putin finally got round to his speech today. Quote Russian President Vladimir Putin is making a national address for the first time since he sent troops into Ukraine in February. In a recorded clip, he says: "Citizens of Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia and other areas free from the Nazi regime. "We will be talking about the steps of protecting our sovereignty, support of the will and desire of our citizens to decide their will themselves." He says Western countries are trying to "block" any independence and development. "In order to force their will in brutal ways to other people. The aim of the West is still weaken and destroy, they are openly saying that." Mr Putin adds that the West made the Ukrainian people "cannon fodder" as far back as 2014, when the Crimean Peninsula was annexed. He goes onto say that the "main aim" of "freeing" the people of the Donbas region "remains without change". Mr Putin adds he "supports" people aiming to hold referendums in Russian-controlled parts of Ukraine. "We will do all we can to ensure safe conditions for holding referendums," he says. Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia announced plans for the referendums on Tuesday. Mr Putin goes on to order a "partial mobilisation" of Russian reserves - saying a decree on this has already been signed. "I stress it is partial mobilisation. Only those who are in reserve will be conscripted," he says. Mr Putin says mobilisation events will begin today. "I shall stress that Russian citizens called up as part of mobilisation will be given all the benefits of those serving under contract," he says. In an ominous moment, Mr Putin reminds the West that Russia has modern weapons of destruction, saying: "I am not bluffing." He accuses the West of engaging in "nuclear blackmail" against Russia - and said he has "lots of weapons to reply". Sky News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Genie said: Putin finally got round to his speech today. Sky News The beginning of the end. Give it a week after the kids from Western Russian cities have had some shooting training and are deployed to stop modern weaponry with a spork and cotton uniform to start seeing protests in the bigger cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 I have a feeling that the delay between speeches was an internal negotiation between full and partial mobilisation. He’s losing control within the Kremlin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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